 Shadows of Latin America?, Whats the story? |
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 Jan 18 2010, 10:14 PM
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Prime Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221  |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 18 2010, 12:09 PM)  What Jay said. None of the writers have been paid, so their stuff still belongs to them. I was just pointing out that some nations will be covered in 6WA. So you could spill then? Montevideo? |
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Jan 19 2010, 02:05 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Well I suppose that depends on whether they're still holding out hope of it being used in future books or not.
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Jan 19 2010, 05:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 21-November 09 Member No.: 17,891 |
QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Jan 18 2010, 09:05 PM) Well I suppose that depends on whether they're still holding out hope of it being used in future books or not. Bingo. |
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Jan 20 2010, 02:53 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
But we have word from the official source
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jan 16 2010, 06:17 PM) I can't remember if I officially said this on Dumpshock before, but here it is: Shadows of Latin America, in the form in which it was written several years ago, will not be released in any way, at least not as long as I'm SR developer. It's old, it's obsolete, and the headaches involved in getting it into shape to be released are not worth the gain of having it out there. That seems pretty complete. unless they are planning a coup. And so... I'm watching inherit the wind and feel litigous. |
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Jan 20 2010, 05:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 21-November 09 Member No.: 17,891 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 19 2010, 09:53 PM) But we have word from the official source Word from the official source doesn't say "not a single word of this book will ever be published by us". As a matter of fact, the opposite is true, they're using bits and pieces of it for the Sixth World Almanac. |
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Jan 20 2010, 05:53 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (etherial @ Jan 20 2010, 05:47 PM) Word from the official source doesn't say "not a single word of this book will ever be published by us". As a matter of fact, the opposite is true, they're using bits and pieces of it for the Sixth World Almanac. For reference. None of the verbiage in 6WA is taken whole and unaltered from the SoLA drafts. |
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Jan 20 2010, 06:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 21-November 09 Member No.: 17,891 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 20 2010, 12:53 PM) For reference. None of the verbiage in 6WA is taken whole and unaltered from the SoLA drafts. Well, duh. |
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Jan 20 2010, 06:35 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,110 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 20 2010, 10:53 AM) For reference. None of the verbiage in 6WA is taken whole and unaltered from the SoLA drafts. QUOTE (etherial @ Jan 20 2010, 11:02 AM) Well, duh. QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 19 2010, 07:53 PM) I'm watching inherit the wind and feel litigous. That's why "For reference"-like statements proliferate. |
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Jan 21 2010, 02:30 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
There's a number of reasons why you don't see us just posting SoLA. Some people held out hope of it being published as a PDF-only release. Others hoped that some pieces of it could be re-used elsewhere (and some parts were). Then there's the consideration that since the material belongs to the authors who wrote it, one author can't release the material another author wrote. And some of the original freelancers are hold to get in contact with these days.
But, seeing as how it's been five years since I wrote my SoLA material and I'm no longer even a Shadowrun freelancer, enjoy! SoLA - Aztlan SoLA - The Caribbean League Other Info for Aztlan and The Carib League Keep in mind that those are final drafts, but they are still drafts. They never underwent a final editorial pass and in the five years since I wrote them, there are definitely things I would have changed or revised. |
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Jan 21 2010, 02:44 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
TY though I'll admit I'm surprised Aztlan was inlcuded, after all that got it's own SB.
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Jan 21 2010, 02:51 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 20 2010, 09:44 PM) TY though I'll admit I'm surprised Aztlan was inlcuded, after all that got it's own SB. Yeah, though keep in mind that the Aztlan SB was released in 1995. It was already a decade old when I wrote that SoLA chapter! And Shadows of Latin America without one of the two largest nations in Latin America would have been a bit strange. |
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Jan 21 2010, 03:03 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Ah, hell, I can't let Jay do this alone. Here's my final draft for French Guiana - the first SR material I ever wrote!
http://www.box.net/shared/467shbmtzu [/edit]BTW, there is a version of the story of how I got dragged into SoLA, and thus freelancing in the first place, in my Shadownotes |
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Jan 21 2010, 04:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 602 Joined: 2-December 07 From: The corner of Detonation Boulevard and Fascination Street Member No.: 14,464 |
sweetness! TY both... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Jan 21 2010, 05:03 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,110 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Thank you kindly, gentlemen.
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Jan 21 2010, 10:33 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Jan 18 2010, 11:28 AM) Oh, I know. In fact, there's a guy on another board I hang out on that still has a preorder slip for it from Gamestop - from '98. I'm just saying that there's a joke there, it just isn't coming to me. Ok, that joke.. was so dry... no one is ever going to get it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jan 21 2010, 01:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Jan 21 2010, 03:30 AM) So the Azzie religion might be serving a guy who goes by the handle "The Enemy"...am I the only one feeling that pleasant creepiness of a sinister conspiracy? |
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Jan 21 2010, 02:18 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Sag mir jetzt bitte nicht, dass du das grade eben erst gemerkt hast? O.o
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Jan 21 2010, 02:31 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Geben Sie dem Kind einen Bruch.
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Jan 21 2010, 02:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Aztech dealing with sinister forces for power with a devil-may-care attitude to the consequences is old news, but that the whole Aztec revival thing is (and possibly always was) nothing but a cover for a whole nation worshipping The Enemy would indeed be news to me.
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Jan 21 2010, 02:57 PM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 21 2010, 02:48 PM) Aztech dealing with sinister forces for power with a devil-may-care attitude to the consequences is old news, but that the whole Aztec revival thing is (and possibly always was) nothing but a cover for a whole nation worshipping The Enemy would indeed be news to me. I always figured that was the point. Demonseed Elite I'm bummed to hear you're no longer freelancing SR at all. |
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Jan 21 2010, 03:27 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Ophis @ Jan 21 2010, 03:57 PM) I always figured that was the point. Hmmm...my understanding always was that Aztech's magical "enterprises" are simply the equivalent to other corps' blantant disregard for environmental damages or their workers' safety - no sinister plans, they just don't give a damn. Did I seriously manage to be too naive about the corp/state I always played as the big, bad guys? |
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Jan 21 2010, 04:32 PM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 21 2010, 03:27 PM) Hmmm...my understanding always was that Aztech's magical "enterprises" are simply the equivalent to other corps' blantant disregard for environmental damages or their workers' safety - no sinister plans, they just don't give a damn. Did I seriously manage to be too naive about the corp/state I always played as the big, bad guys? Well the old Aztalan Source Book and Threats (Blood Mage Gestalt) covered a lot of it plus implication/evidence in several novels. I've been reading sourcebooks since the early nineties and the Azzies have always had an air of something more than greed going on, I think Shadowbeat has hints in the sports section. |
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Jan 21 2010, 05:16 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
We need a score card for the evil that resides behind Aztec. Blood mages, corrupt dragons, Mr. Darke, the "enemy", etc.....
I wish someone would help us with a flow chart of command and level of evilness. Oh and thanks for posts guys. |
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Jan 21 2010, 05:36 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 21 2010, 03:31 PM) Geben Sie dem Kind einen Bruch. please, don't try to german again ._. |
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Jan 21 2010, 05:58 PM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 21 2010, 05:36 PM) please, don't try to german again ._. Wow. GERMAN IS A VERB NOW!!!! Neato. Can I get translations please (or a linguasoft). |
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