 Capsule Rounds, ... what to load them with? |
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 Jan 20 2010, 02:55 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant  Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022  |
QUOTE (wind_in_the_stones @ Jan 19 2010, 07:17 PM)  How many doses fit in a capsule? That's two or three doses listed. So each round only holds half a dose worth of the mixed chemicals? And the cost of chemicals per round would be halved. Well, it is Handwaived a lot, as doses of actual chemicals will vary by liquid volume depending upon the drug/chemical involved... If I have someone wanting to purchase a 400 Nuyen Round for his weapon, go for it... that round may not even hit the target, much less be effective 100% of the time, so it balances out in the end... These rounds get real expensive fast... and I would tend to enforce minimum lot limits of 10... So if you want to do something like that, minimum order is going to be a box of 10 rounds customized with a chemical mixture to match... gets awful expensive at 4000 Nuyen for a box of 10 rounds... as such, they are not purchased very often... Keep the Faith |
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Jan 20 2010, 03:45 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 19 2010, 09:55 PM) gets awful expensive at 4000 Nuyen for a box of 10 rounds... Suppressive fire, go! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jan 20 2010, 03:49 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 19 2010, 08:45 PM) Suppressive fire, go! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) No Doubt... Keep the Faith |
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Jan 20 2010, 04:08 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
It's important to remember that chemicals are held in solution. Regardless of what you add to the solution, the relative volume is not going to change much. As I recall, DMSO is a solvent, so it would just be substituted for whatever else the doses are dissolved in.
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Jan 20 2010, 05:22 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Did Hyper make it into 4E? The drug that hyperactivated your senses?
I used to have a old character with hyper/cayenne pepper/DMSO grenades. Sometimes he'd pay a bum to pee in a cup and mix that in as well. -karma |
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Jan 20 2010, 07:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 18 2010, 04:56 PM) Leas + Slab + DMSO + Capsul round = $398 of instant "I was never here, and you were never shot" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) laés costs 500, why not Pixie Dust? it's only 40 and 1D6 minutes memory loss seems enough to forget an encouter. probably with some good old neurostun or narcojet. put in some eX or Push in he even feels happy about it. but i really want to know, how much doeses fit into one capsule/gas grenade |
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Jan 20 2010, 08:12 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 30-May 09 From: Germany Member No.: 17,225 |
Well... sniping people with a K-10 round and watch them go crazy berserk and after that drop dead (or comatose). It's just 900 a round *g*
Ah, and you have to get them mad at their own people somehow... ah maybe just mix some other drugs in, so he loses ALL control. Maybe some Guts. Holy crap... that is awesome. |
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Jan 20 2010, 09:40 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Hmm, what would the effect be of having a round of 90% Alcohol+Dmso hit someone?
I know the amount of alcohol is very little but with such concentrations the effect should show pretty soon as it go straight into the bloodstream. |
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Jan 20 2010, 10:06 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Anybody said HMHVV yet?
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Jan 20 2010, 10:55 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 20 2010, 11:06 AM) Anybody said HMHVV yet? Well, yes, that should work - in a long term perspective. Just remember - if YOU could do it, so could the GM. Hmm..perhaps I should start playing a ghoul with Capsule round ammunition filled with DMSO and his own blood... Paintball - Serious Business |
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Jan 20 2010, 11:15 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,086 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Jan 20 2010, 09:12 AM) Well... sniping people with a K-10 round and watch them go crazy berserk and after that drop dead (or comatose). It's just 900 a round *g* The look on your GM's face is totally worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jan 20 2010, 11:15 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
It IS a bit of lampshading the sillyness that are the infction rules ^^
Also the most likely TOTAL Apocalypse setting in shadowrun nowadays. |
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Jan 20 2010, 11:28 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Hmm, one should be able to increasy the potency of the drug by making it more concentrated in order to fit more than one dose per round. Perhaps doubling the price of each dose per extra dose added.
Guts+Kali & DMSO= X2 (since i dont count the DMSO as part of the added drug calculation) |
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Jan 20 2010, 01:11 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
Most neuroactive chemicals are measured in micrograms and milligrams. Potency shouldn't be much of a problem. You can either assume that the chemicals come powdered and ready to mix, or in solvent and ready to distill out via commonly known kitchen chemistry processes. There's lots of detail to be had here, but I've got no reason to be anal enough to research the likelihood that you'd destroy the chemical just by boiling out the solvent to leave powder.
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Jan 20 2010, 02:12 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
Autofire weapon full of freeze foam capsule rounds... Jackstop rounds ... alakhest rounds... the limit is your imagination.
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Jan 20 2010, 02:19 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jan 20 2010, 09:12 AM) Autofire weapon full of... HMHVV. I mean, just think. You've splattered the walls with the stuff. No one's going to come by here in a while. |
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Jan 20 2010, 05:11 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Aside from the walls maybe. Because HMHVV has the habbit of making people come back.
Can you imagine what vampiric walls would be like? O.o They would infect the rest of the Building. Then the Building would infect other Buildings. Untill the complete City has been turned into an undead moloch. |
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Jan 20 2010, 06:17 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 20 2010, 12:11 PM) an undead moloch. A person or thing which demands or requires costly sacrifices? |
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Jan 20 2010, 07:57 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
OK, now I have to listen to Ginsberg reading Howl... :-/
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Jan 20 2010, 08:08 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,086 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
In German it describes something which (metaphorically) devours and taints everything around it, especially applied to sprawl-like cities.
And another idea I just got for capsule rounds...anyone remember Mission Impossible part 1? |
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Jan 20 2010, 08:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 19 2010, 11:55 PM) So if you want to do something like that, minimum order is going to be a box of 10 rounds customized with a chemical mixture to match... gets awful expensive at 4000 Nuyen for a box of 10 rounds... as such, they are not purchased very often... Keep the Faith Which reminds me of Chris Rock and his idea to prevent death by firearms. You don't forbid guns, just make the bullets crazily expensive, like 10 thousands bucks a bullet, then, people will kill someone if they area really really reach, or really really want to kill the guy. "Man, John was killed yesterday by 50k worth of bullets, whatever he did, he must have deserved" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jan 20 2010, 08:17 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 20 2010, 07:17 PM) A person or thing which demands or requires costly sacrifices? QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 20 2010, 09:08 PM) In German it describes something which (metaphorically) devours and taints everything around it, especially applied to sprawl-like cities. And another idea I just got for capsule rounds...anyone remember Mission Impossible part 1? and i feel my choice of words is justified in both cases ^^ No, i don't remember, what happened? |
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Jan 20 2010, 08:31 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,086 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
The agents needed to keep a guy away from his desk, so they spiked his coffee with a good dose of laxatives. That way you don't even have to hide the dead/unconcious body (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 20 2010, 09:42 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 20 2010, 09:31 PM) The agents needed to keep a guy away from his desk, so they spiked his coffee with a good dose of laxatives. That way you don't even have to hide the dead/unconcious body (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hmm... So how quickly does a high concentration of DMSO+Laxatives take to have...how shall we say...explosive effect on the subject... |
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Jan 20 2010, 09:49 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Well, it may go straight into the bloodstream like this, but the chemical and physical process of speeding up digestion will still take it's time.
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