Capsule Rounds, ... what to load them with? |
Capsule Rounds, ... what to load them with? |
Jan 20 2010, 09:58 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
I suppose many laxatives will actually fail to do much if they're not ingested.. they work in the bowels, not the bloodstream. However, that'd be injecting common sense into a rules situation.
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Jan 20 2010, 11:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
If opiods can cause constipation by binding certain receptors in the brain, I guess it should also work the other way round. Or at least it requires less handaiving than other SR chemistry ^^
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Jan 21 2010, 03:11 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
If opiods can cause constipation by binding certain receptors in the brain, I guess it should also work the other way round. Or at least it requires less handaiving than other SR chemistry ^^ Opiods don't cause constipation by binding to brain receptors. It binds to opiod receptors in the GI tract, and there are medications that are more specific to the GI tract receptors. There are some IV drugs that can theoretically cause increased GI motility, mostly Serotonin receptor agonists, but nothing that's specific to the GI tract that I know of (other than Tegaserod/Zelnorm, which was pulled off the market). The vast majority of (effective) laxatives are orally ingested.Still, you can definitely put an IV diuretic in DMSO capsules. You don't have to give them the shits, when having to pee every 15 minutes or so will do just as well. |
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Jan 21 2010, 10:25 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Opiods don't cause constipation by binding to brain receptors. It binds to opiod receptors in the GI tract, and there are medications that are more specific to the GI tract receptors. Alright, so the receptors are a bit further down...but if there are receptors for it, shouldn't there also be (theoretically) agonists which activate them? |
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Jan 21 2010, 10:47 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
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Jan 22 2010, 03:47 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Alright, so the receptors are a bit further down...but if there are receptors for it, shouldn't there also be (theoretically) agonists which activate them? That's only assuming that constipation is exactly the opposite of diarrhea. Which it isn't. They exist in a continuum, and not one that has both on each extreme. GI motility agents are finicky, and different things apply to different bodies. Again, it's not really a cost effective option to put into a capsule round with DMSO. Unlike, say, IV diuretics, which can be had fairly cheap. Or some very simple stuff that is deadlier and more annoying.If you can just dump some Ex-Lax into a round, then it would be cheap. But IV drugs tend to be expensive. |
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