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Nyost Akasuke
post Jan 22 2010, 07:44 AM
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Hooray for SM's subtitles.

I was reading through Street Magic and went through the Magical Threats section (I spend a lot of time there). As I was reading, I developed a few questions that I couldn't seem to find an answer to. So, as expected, my newbie self is bringing them to you guys, in hopes that you can assist me. ^-^

There's three main things I'm looking to have answered or commented on, and I think I'll give them their own little sections.

Shadow Spirits
The Energy Drain that these spirits use, can it be applied to Free Spirits as well (PC or not)? Meaning, if a Wraith somehow causes a Free Spirit to commit a random act of violence, will ED steal away some of Free Spirit's Karma? Furthermore, what happens if the subject being drained has no karma to begin with. Is the Energy Drain wasted, do damage only, or just automatically fail?

Insect Magic
Insect Shamans summon various classes of bugs, and act as the focal point of their hive until a Queen or Mother arrives. My question is, a twisted mage or shaman who actively seeks to learn bug wizardry for the purpose of increasing his own power (for whatever reason), does this shaman have to try and invoke a Q/M? I can imagine having a horde of bugs, tied to you and under your control, being a very enticing and powerful asset. I find it hard to imagine that certain insect shamans are willing to give up the kind of power that forming a hive grants.

For example, some random mage becomes a Wasp shaman. He decides that having a network of spirits under his control that he can share senses with, and who obey him completely, is a pretty neat idea and he's not very willing to turn that power over to a bug. Does the mentor spirit/Queen have the ability to keep him from doing this, or can she command the hive to dispose of him since he's not up to completing the hive?

I believe it says insect shamans feel compelled to summon queens and mothers. Would it be reasonable to give the shaman a trait similar to a mentor spirit disadvantage, requiring him to make a test to see if he can resist the urge to summon a Q/M when the time is right? These may be odd questions, but it floods my braaaain.

Lastly for bugs, can Mystic Adepts be used as suitable shamans for a hive?

Toxic Magic
After a lot of searching on DS, most of the questions in this category were answered, but there's still some things I wanna run by you guys.

Toxic Adepts. I don't know if they've been mentioned or asked about before, but I assume they can (or do) exist. If so, what would be likely powers, spells (for MysAdepts), and metamagics for them? I'm addicted to CharGen, and I think a Toxic Adept of some sort would be an interesting thing to try and create.

Now, here's where a lot of people might start to hate me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif) . I'm attempting to make a Toxic Shaman PC using the BP system. I know that a good amount of people might not allow that, but I'm absolutely obsessed with toxic magic and I'm going to do it anyway. I do want to try and balance it out though, and that's what I could use some ideas for. Ol' search function gave me a lot of ideas from old threads ('Specially FrankTrollman's Toxic Traditions), and I'm playing with the idea of making Toxic Magic a 25BP Quality (which includes the Magician quality, so taking a ''Toxic Magician'' quality is essentially the Mage quality, plus 10BP for being Toxic).

So, I may be crazy, and my questions and desires totally ridiculous. Let me know Dumpshock, and thanks for all the help you've already given me.
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- Nyost Akasuke   Magical Threats   Jan 22 2010, 07:44 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Quick change. Read Digital Grimoire and decided I...   Jan 22 2010, 11:53 PM
- - Snow_Fox   I think a bug shaman does not have to summon a que...   Jan 23 2010, 02:35 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Alright, going with that, what ''limits...   Jan 23 2010, 03:55 AM
- - Hagga   He can start a real hive is about it, really. No c...   Jan 23 2010, 07:52 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Wouldn't that only apply to spirits who haven...   Jan 23 2010, 08:49 AM
- - Glyph   An insect shaman is described as always summoning ...   Jan 23 2010, 09:09 AM
- - The Jake   The critical mass is the charisma limit on the num...   Jan 23 2010, 03:48 PM
- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 22 2010, 08:44...   Jan 23 2010, 03:50 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 22 2010, 12:44...   Jan 23 2010, 06:08 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   @ Glyph: Dang, that's right. Thanks for that. ...   Jan 23 2010, 08:11 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 23 2010, 01:11...   Jan 23 2010, 08:25 PM
- - Lokathor   If I could add my minor question about Spirits tha...   Jan 23 2010, 08:23 PM
- - Tanegar   Please elaborate on this "toxic magician who ...   Jan 23 2010, 08:41 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   @Tymeaus Jalynsfein: True, I guess I'll have t...   Jan 23 2010, 09:04 PM
- - Tanegar   I'm not sure you have a firm handle on the nat...   Jan 23 2010, 09:19 PM
- - hahnsoo   As for the bounty, Dunkelzahn's Will states: ...   Jan 23 2010, 09:25 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   @Tanegar: I hope I would have a grasp on the natur...   Jan 23 2010, 09:33 PM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 23 2010, 04:33...   Jan 23 2010, 09:50 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 23 2010, 10:33...   Jan 23 2010, 11:46 PM
||- - Tanegar   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 23 2010, 06:46 PM) ...   Jan 24 2010, 12:12 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 23 2010, 04:33...   Jan 25 2010, 05:07 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Really? I was aware that a lot of nukes just stopp...   Jan 23 2010, 09:55 PM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 23 2010, 04:55...   Jan 23 2010, 10:13 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 23 2010, 11:13 PM) T...   Jan 24 2010, 12:53 AM
- - Stahlseele   Yeah, the Chi-Town Nuke and the Nukes Winternacht ...   Jan 23 2010, 10:26 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Dang. Well, frag the DIMR. They can study the effe...   Jan 23 2010, 10:45 PM
- - Stahlseele   Who needsNukes when you have Magic? You just need...   Jan 23 2010, 11:21 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Wow. That's insanely cheap. Now, to convince a...   Jan 23 2010, 11:40 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 24 2010, 12:40...   Jan 23 2010, 11:57 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   So what you're telling me is, the poisoners wh...   Jan 24 2010, 12:43 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 24 2010, 01:43...   Jan 24 2010, 01:26 AM
- - Rystefn   Personally, I'd say you should take what peopl...   Jan 24 2010, 01:19 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   I read the Winternight thing, and I completely und...   Jan 24 2010, 02:08 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 24 2010, 03:08...   Jan 24 2010, 02:20 AM
- - Rystefn   Depends on your definition of evil. Considering th...   Jan 24 2010, 02:15 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   =( @ Jake: I have no GM. I am lonely. Why would a...   Jan 24 2010, 02:38 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 24 2010, 02:38...   Jan 25 2010, 03:39 AM
|- - Nyost Akasuke   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 24 2010, 07:39 PM) ...   Jan 25 2010, 05:09 AM
- - Rystefn   To balance the power-level, there's really not...   Jan 25 2010, 03:41 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Rystefn @ Jan 25 2010, 03:41 AM) Y...   Jan 25 2010, 03:49 AM
- - hahnsoo   Play a normal game of Shadowrun first with an actu...   Jan 25 2010, 03:44 AM
|- - Rystefn   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 25 2010, 03:44 AM) P...   Jan 25 2010, 03:49 AM
- - hahnsoo   It's not the power. I don't care about th...   Jan 25 2010, 05:47 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 25 2010, 05:47 AM) T...   Jan 25 2010, 05:51 AM
|- - Nyost Akasuke   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 24 2010, 09:47 PM) I...   Jan 25 2010, 06:24 AM
||- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 25 2010, 01:24...   Jan 25 2010, 04:56 PM
|- - Rystefn   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 25 2010, 03:49 AM) ...   Jan 25 2010, 05:09 PM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Rystefn @ Jan 25 2010, 01:09 PM) T...   Jan 26 2010, 03:42 AM
- - WalksWithWiFi   Some years back i had a player who tried his hands...   Jan 25 2010, 03:50 PM
- - Glyph   Okay, thoughts on how to make this concept potenti...   Jan 26 2010, 07:33 AM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jan 25 2010, 11:33 PM) Oka...   Jan 26 2010, 05:18 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 26 2010, 12:18 PM) I ca...   Jan 26 2010, 05:45 PM
||- - Tyro   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jan 26 2010, 09:45 AM) E...   Jan 26 2010, 05:47 PM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 26 2010, 12:47 PM) I di...   Jan 26 2010, 06:23 PM
|||- - Tyro   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 26 2010, 10:23 AM) A...   Jan 26 2010, 06:34 PM
||- - Nyost Akasuke   QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 26 2010, 09:47 AM) I di...   Jan 27 2010, 02:42 AM
||- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 27 2010, 02:42...   Jan 27 2010, 03:05 AM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 26 2010, 01:18 PM) Fina...   Jan 27 2010, 03:02 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 26 2010, 07:02 PM) T...   Jan 29 2010, 02:53 AM
- - The Jake   This discussion is analgous to me saying "I w...   Jan 26 2010, 10:58 PM
- - Nyost Akasuke   I live in the mountains, and as far as I know, the...   Jan 27 2010, 03:09 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 27 2010, 03:09...   Jan 27 2010, 03:26 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Nah, Southern California. Damn, I guess I'll...   Jan 27 2010, 03:35 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 26 2010, 08:35...   Jan 29 2010, 01:52 AM
- - The Jake   Having lived in LA for about a year I can honestly...   Jan 27 2010, 08:58 AM
- - Nyost Akasuke   Camp Pendleton is quite a ways off from where I...   Jan 29 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Nyost Akasuke @ Jan 29 2010, 10:46...   Jan 30 2010, 04:14 PM


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