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 Feb 2 2010, 11:30 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Ucluelet - Tofino - Nanaimo Salish-Sahide Council Member No.: 17,309  |
I have a sort of setting related question now, thanks to all this discussion on AI and Auras when targeting and destroying came up:
Would AI view magic as so alien that it would fear it and try to destroy it? Visa versa with something magical fearing AI. Just having some ideas on some opposing forces, like magicians lobbying against AI getting SINs and citizenship. Sorta like imagining two perfectly valid theories in science at war with each other to become the dominant theory of the reality they exist in. Hmm, like I wonder if eco-terrorist shamans would be trying to kill the technology that makes AI life possible ... Realms of Resonance vs Astral Realms... |
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Feb 2 2010, 11:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Feb 2 2010, 11:30 PM)  I have a sort of setting related question now, thanks to all this discussion on AI and Auras when targeting and destroying came up: Would AI view magic as so alien that it would fear it and try to destroy it? Visa versa with something magical fearing AI. Just having some ideas on some opposing forces, like magicians lobbying against AI getting SINs and citizenship. Sorta like imagining two perfectly valid theories in science at war with each other to become the dominant theory of the reality they exist in. Hmm, like I wonder if eco-terrorist shamans would be trying to kill the technology that makes AI life possible ... Realms of Resonance vs Astral Realms... This is interesting. |
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Feb 3 2010, 12:08 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,424 Joined: 7-December 09 From: Freedonia Member No.: 17,952 |
not so sure its equally alien. a free spirit could view the matrix through VR glasses. an AI could never view the Astral through any method I know of (not sayen there isnt some way just I dont know it). at worst they would probably view the other as something that doesnt matter. the whole invisible pink elephant in the room.
course if spirits or AI are anything like humans perhaps they will invent a religion about the other. |
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Feb 3 2010, 05:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
But if the AI are realy passions ? Wouldn't they be Magic ?
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Feb 3 2010, 06:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 656 Joined: 18-January 06 From: Leesburg, Virginia, USA Member No.: 8,177 |
QUOTE (Daylen @ Feb 2 2010, 07:08 PM) not so sure its equally alien. a free spirit could view the matrix through VR glasses. an AI could never view the Astral through any method I know of (not sayen there isnt some way just I dont know it). at worst they would probably view the other as something that doesnt matter. the whole invisible pink elephant in the room. course if spirits or AI are anything like humans perhaps they will invent a religion about the other. Actually, I can not think of any way a free spirit could view VR. A possession free spirit posessing a person might be able to bend the restrictions far enough to see AR. But Materialization Free spirits can not even see projected computer images. (Presumably, this restriction is intended for balance.) Yours, Joel |
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Feb 3 2010, 07:12 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
Synner (Peter Taylor) once described it as the Spirit not having a central nervous system for the trodes to interact with, and thus the VR signals couldn't interact properly. It may be possible for a corporation to do all the necessary research for free spirits to use VR, but outside of a few countries that recognize free spirits as citizens there is little call for it from the populace.
Possession spirits could possibly use their host's body for the connection, likewise a spell that shared sensory information could allow them to experience VR. There are no known corroloaries to map Astral Perception to a specific sense, since it is a psychic awareness. Again, just need more research. |
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Feb 3 2010, 07:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
@BishopMcQ but in relation to the 4th world the AIs are Passions right ?
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Feb 3 2010, 08:09 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
That relies on facts not in evidence, such as my complete lack of familiarity with Earthdawn except what I've read on AH's pages and discussions over food with a few people.
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Feb 3 2010, 08:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
So IF AIs are Passions, so they are magical beings ...
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Feb 4 2010, 04:04 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 2 2010, 09:26 AM) Tymaeus-- The quote you are looking at is for Direct Combat spells (Manabolt, Powerbolt, etc.) Indirect Combat spells (Fireball, Acidwave, etc.) are resisted by drones. I understand that you called out Direct Damage spell in your response, but the first person to talk about magic was talking about a fireball, so I thought it worth mentioning. Thanks BishopMcQ... Must have missed the Indirect indicator in the post... and yeah, I did indicate Direct Damage... just to cover my tracks, I do know that Indirect spells are both dodgeable and soakable... Keep the Faith |
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Feb 4 2010, 12:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
QUOTE (Delarn @ Feb 3 2010, 09:22 PM) So IF AIs are Passions, so they are magical beings ... Why should they be? |
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Feb 4 2010, 07:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
ED Passions are magical beings and AI seems to follow the path of Passions. How they emmerged and stuff.
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Feb 5 2010, 02:44 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Delarn @ Feb 4 2010, 12:30 PM) ED Passions are magical beings and AI seems to follow the path of Passions. How they emmerged and stuff. Sorry... I am just not seeing it... Keep the Faith |
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Feb 5 2010, 03:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
Nevermind that it was a delerium when we were debating the source of magic. We were talking about Passions and Horrors and AI came up ...
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Feb 5 2010, 03:17 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Delarn @ Feb 4 2010, 08:09 PM) Nevermind that it was a delerium when we were debating the source of magic. We were talking about Passions and Horrors and AI came up ... Ahhhhh..... Sorry, Still not seeing it... Must have missed that. Keep the Faith |
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Feb 5 2010, 03:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 5 2010, 04:17 AM) Ahhhhh..... Sorry, Still not seeing it... Must have missed that. Keep the Faith Dislexia strike again ... it as written ALL and I read AI ... damned me ! |
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Feb 6 2010, 11:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
Sorry for breaking the thread but... what in the name of [insert Deity of reader] just happened?
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Feb 6 2010, 03:16 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (GreyBrother @ Feb 6 2010, 04:14 AM) Sorry for breaking the thread but... what in the name of [insert Deity of reader] just happened? Honestly... I am still wondering that... But it is okay... Keep the Faith |
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Feb 6 2010, 03:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,424 Joined: 7-December 09 From: Freedonia Member No.: 17,952 |
AI would be the resonance version of passions not passions.
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Feb 6 2010, 03:29 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Daylen @ Feb 6 2010, 08:23 AM) AI would be the resonance version of passions not passions. But why do we even need the comparison to start with? Keep the Faith |
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Feb 6 2010, 06:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 6 2010, 04:16 PM) Honestly... I am still wondering that... But it is okay... Keep the Faith Just a bad case of dislexia from my part ! |
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