 The Great CGL Rumors and Speculation Thread |
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 Mar 22 2010, 08:18 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178  |
QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 22 2010, 10:52 AM)  Unfortunate, very unfortunate. I can only wish it had played out differently. Speaking as an expert more than an insider, how would you have done things differently? We all know you've done excellent work on many game lines; as a game developer, how would you have handled things? AH: we might have had a few differences, but I have nothing but respect for you. Best of luck in your future endeavors. |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:19 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 22 2010, 02:18 PM) Speaking as an expert more than an insider, how would you have done things differently? We all know you've done excellent work on many game lines; as a game developer, how would you have handled things? Great question. I highly doubt Adam will answer it. |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 20-March 10 From: Around the Ley Lines on the 'moors. Great Britain. Member No.: 18,323 |
Quick question, but if the freelancers who have been posting here are breaking their NDA's by doing so, does that mean they forfit any payments?
I have no idea if they do or not just interested. |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:32 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
NDA aren't total blackouts of information.
As an aside, CGL certainly doesn't pay enough or have enough to be worth those kind of NDAs. |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:42 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
QUOTE (Malachi @ Mar 22 2010, 04:19 PM) Great question. I highly doubt Adam will answer it. Check out the big brain on Malachi! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (SecGuard @ Mar 22 2010, 03:25 PM) Quick question, but if the freelancers who have been posting here are breaking their NDA's by doing so, does that mean they forfit any payments? I have no idea if they do or not just interested. It ends up being simple--if your work gets published, you deserve to be paid. Period. Jason H. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 16-March 10 Member No.: 18,299 |
RE: NDAs, my day job has a stricter and more complicated NDA than Catalyst has. While I can't and won't disclose the specifics, Catalyst's NDA is fairly basic. "Don't post or discuss out of house information that the general public doesn't already know or can't find out about through other sources".
All NDAs have that as the base of their legalese, but some go further than that. Some authors (not CGL types) have told me of NDAs so strict that they can't even tell anyone they've ever worked for the company until the product gets published. And if the product gets shelved, they have to keep completely mum. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:14 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
OK, that's it, i'm calling SR dead as of now.
Without Ancient History and all the rest, it basically is, anyway. No matter what happens to CGL, Shadowrun will never be what it was again. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:22 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,144 |
As far as i understood most of the freelancers, while they would not work anymore for CGL they might work again for SR.
Therefore CGL might be dead but SR only will be if it stays with CGL |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 22 2010, 05:14 PM) OK, that's it, i'm calling SR dead as of now. Without Ancient History and all the rest, it basically is, anyway. No matter what happens to CGL, Shadowrun will never be what it was again. That, or we're being set up for the biggest April Fool's Day joke ever. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:24 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Wonder if the Freelancers would/could consider contacting Pegasus Spiele.
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Mar 22 2010, 09:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 118 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 22 2010, 10:14 PM) OK, that's it, i'm calling SR dead as of now. Without Ancient History and all the rest, it basically is, anyway. No matter what happens to CGL, Shadowrun will never be what it was again. If it already wasn't what it was, how can it ever be what it was again? Your aiming at: It won't be what it is now, but it already wasn't what it was... Now I'm confused (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:27 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Smart allec/know it all <.<
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Mar 22 2010, 09:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 20-January 09 Member No.: 16,795 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 22 2010, 02:14 PM) OK, that's it, i'm calling SR dead as of now. Without Ancient History and all the rest, it basically is, anyway. No matter what happens to CGL, Shadowrun will never be what it was again. Huh? Come in off the ledge. Not to minimize AH, or his fan archive, but I don't believe he contributed any official material prior to 4e. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 16-March 05 From: 51° 16' North 7° 11' East Member No.: 7,168 |
"Always in motion is the future."
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Mar 22 2010, 09:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Mar 22 2010, 09:22 PM) That, or we're being set up for the biggest April Fool's Day joke ever. You mean this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEu0o62ycmg |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:53 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 22 2010, 10:30 PM) Huh? Come in off the ledge. Not to minimize AH, or his fan archive, but I don't believe he contributed any official material prior to 4e. If i am not mistaken, he was there from 2nd Edition on. Maybe even 1st. Certainly in 3rd. That man basically IS the Shadowrun Universe incarnate. There's not much he does not know about the universe and the background. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
AH has been a well-informed fan for a long time, but he hasn't been a freelancer that long!
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Mar 22 2010, 09:58 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 22 2010, 09:30 PM) Huh? Come in off the ledge. Not to minimize AH, or his fan archive, but I don't believe he contributed any official material prior to 4e. Very little. I helped with some background in the SOTA books (hellcows, Or'zet, etc.) and I did some ghost writing to clean up System Failure (for example, I helped Lars kill Captain Chaos). Pretty much everything else was SR4. Thanks again to everyone for the kind words and thoughts. |
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Mar 22 2010, 10:03 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Ok, then i got something mixed up a bit there somewhere . .
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Mar 22 2010, 10:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 20-January 09 Member No.: 16,795 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 22 2010, 02:58 PM) Very little. I helped with some background in the SOTA books (hellcows, Or'zet, etc.) and I did some ghost writing to clean up System Failure (for example, I helped Lars kill Captain Chaos). Pretty much everything else was SR4. Thanks again to everyone for the kind words and thoughts. Ah, so your first credited work was the SR3 -> SR4 character converter web freebie? |
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Mar 22 2010, 10:17 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele) Wonder if the Freelancers would/could consider contacting Pegasus Spiele. I would hope Pegasus doesn't overstretch itself, like FanPRo id. But they seem to be a bit more solid than CGL, truely, never mind how I dislike some of that team. QUOTE (Stahlseele) There's not much he does not know about the universe and the background. I'd wager the only thing he does not know are those Findley and Sargent took to their early graves. Pity those are among the most important parts to make the SR background fit, but such is life. I wish all those departing the best of luck. As Adam said, a damn shame it played out like this. Just when SR4 was starting to look nice. |
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Mar 22 2010, 10:18 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
There are a large number of Freelancers who are not under NDA, Jennifer and Bobby are among them.
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Mar 22 2010, 10:19 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No, that would be SOTA:64 (additional writing) and I think my "official" webfiction story Dog Days was before that. SoLA of course did not happen, so my first main writer credit on an official product was the SR3->SR4 character converter freebie, and my first main writer credit in a published book was Runner Havens.
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Mar 22 2010, 10:35 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,302 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 22 2010, 05:50 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) Sig worthy, I needed one....and in an ironic twist since I'm no longer in Calgary (is your meatbody still in Edmonton?) I guess you'll have to wait for payment till I can make it to GenCon on a year you are there. Edmonton? EDMONTON? I'm an hour and a half out of that city and can't find anybody to play. And an SR writer is in Edmonton? #&$#&^ |
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