CGL speculation #4 Options

[Bob Lord of Evil]

And don't forget the iPad.

The iPad is a step forward my bias about Mac comes from their obnoxious ad campaign.

I believe that we are going to see a HUGE leap forward with carbon nanotubes though (the work being done is vastly impressive, screens, memory and processors). The 21st century may very well become know as the Carbon Age! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Synner667]

It's true, I -- and Eclipse Phase -- make for pretty pretty princesses.

Hmmm...

You might have a board problem...
...I received your post 4 times as an update.

[X-Kalibur]

Hmmm...

You might have a board problem...
...I received your post 4 times as an update.

No, he's just that pretty.

[Bob Lord of Evil]

Well, wait. If cars were like computers ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Touche...

My response?

You mean cars that for no apparent reason suddenly accelerate or refuse to stop? (Full Disclosure: I own a Toyota)

In regards to SUVs?
I don't get what you are driving at. (pun and run)

The car companies (which are decidely few in the US) jumped towards E85 once the government started backing that. But ooops, corn ethanol is a 1 to 1 energy swap to create and not nearly as profitible/efficient as say Brazil's sugar cane ethanol.

Nobody likes a nay sayer though so I am going to offer up some hope. Doctor Bussard's polywell fusion reactor for cheap/clean electricity and hydrogen to run our vehicles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[hermit]

You mean cars that for no apparent reason suddenly accelerate or refuse to stop? (Full Disclosure: I own a Toyota)

So do I. I also know how to declutch. Or, if you're preferring automatics, turn the engine of and switch to N. I honestly fail to get how this can kill you. It's not like the engine isn't extinguisghable. At worst, you ruin the engine, but you can then bill the company for that? And even if the normal brakes for soe reason do not work, there is a maniual brake that must be included with a car, so once your engine is dead or turned off, use that to brake.

Also, free market says hushing up is cheaper and more efficient than recall. It's state regulations that force automakers to abide by safety standards, not free market.

Nobody likes a nay sayer though so I am going to offer up some hope. Doctor Bussard's polywell fusion reactor for cheap/clean electricity and hydrogen to run our vehicles.

For patriotic reasons, I am more hoping for ITER. And for storage reasons, I'd rather like to see CH3OH run engines or something. It is impossibkle to contain hydrogen, and I'd hate to have my gas tank emptied after a week by diffusion.

[Wandering One]

So do I. I also know how to declutch. Or, if you're preferring automatics, turn the engine of and switch to N. I honestly fail to get how this can kill you. It's not like the engine isn't extinguisghable. At worst, you ruin the engine, but you can then bill the company for that? And even if the normal brakes for soe reason do not work, there is a maniual brake that must be included with a car, so once your engine is dead or turned off, use that to brake.

Also, free market says hushing up is cheaper and more efficient than recall. It's state regulations that force automakers to abide by safety standards, not free market.

The difference between a Blue Screen and a motor-lockup is that your desk chair won't kill you. Ever. Well, mostly ever. At least without some twit at the company playing with your billion knobs and levers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also I've had engines sputter for 30 secs or so (admittedly, older cars) after I turned them off as they cleared their carbs or whatever their personal issue was. Now, attach this to an automatic in gear that forces the engine to keep turning (you mention clutching, so you're familiar with the push start) and you've got a mechanical failure of significant issue. Add this to panic of the driver and you've got a significant issue on your hands until their brain is no longer de-clutched. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I for one can live with cars going at least a WEE bit slower then the computer industry. Especially when that moron with coffee, cell phone, briefcase of notes, and doughnut (I'm still not sure I want to know how he was holding that) is still trying to run me off the road every the morning with me on my cycle. Neutral? He's already mentally in neutral...

[BlueMax]

Trains are superior to cars. Not only should we use trains more,

we should get back on track.

BlueMax
/speculate people
//its easy

[Derek]

The difference between a Blue Screen and a motor-lockup is that your desk chair won't kill you. Ever. Well, mostly ever. At least without some twit at the company playing with your billion knobs and levers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Funny thing with the uncontrolled acceleration (Prius or otherwise) is that the statistics show that it happens far more to those 55 and older in age. I think the actual figures were about 6 standard deviations outside of the norm, but I might be remembering wrong

[hermit]

Also I've had engines sputter for 30 secs or so (admittedly, older cars) after I turned them off as they cleared their carbs or whatever their personal issue was. Now, attach this to an automatic in gear that forces the engine to keep turning (you mention clutching, so you're familiar with the push start) and you've got a mechanical failure of significant issue. Add this to panic of the driver and you've got a significant issue on your hands until their brain is no longer de-clutched.

Had that too with my first car, but since I pulled the gears out, it could sputter all it liked, that would not affect whereever the car moved. Then again, that car wasn't an automatic, so there it might be more of an issue. There sill is the ignition you can just pull, though. If the car doesn't react to that, you have the manual and normal brake. if THAT fails, you can try to crash controlledly, decelerating by scratching the car over a wall, rock, or crash barriers. If you're in open land, you can just hop off the road. That will destroy the car, break the suspension and such, but it will not kill you. If all these mishaps happen to you in a forest, you're doomed, but being struck by lightning is much more probable.

Trains are superior to cars. Not only should we use trains more,

Trains are always late, and I hate railroading. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

/Off-Topic

[Wandering One]

Had that too with my first car, but since I pulled the gears out, it could sputter all it liked, that would not affect whereever the car moved. Then again, that car wasn't an automatic, so there it might be more of an issue. There sill is the ignition you can just pull, though. If the car doesn't react to that, you have the manual and normal brake. if THAT fails, you can try to crash controlledly, decelerating by scratching the car over a wall, rock, or crash barriers. If you're in open land, you can just hop off the road. That will destroy the car, break the suspension and such, but it will not kill you. If all these mishaps happen to you in a forest, you're doomed, but being struck by lightning is much more probable.

Agreed, plenty of ways to control it, but sadly, I fear the human condition is not as calm, rational, and consequence determining... read, non-panic'd... in such a situation. 5 seconds could mean a lot in that situation if it takes them that long to get themselves back under enough control to start making decisions instead of reacting.

/grabs a bandwagon
//drives it across the railroad
///trying to bring back the bellyring.

[Pepsi Jedi]

In the case of the run away toyotas, the people said they DID try to turn it off and stood on the breaks as if the lives depended on it. They didn't just ride along complacent. They tried to stop the car, guys.

[D2F]

In the case of the run away toyotas, the people said they DID try to turn it off and stood on the breaks as if the lives depended on it. They didn't just ride along complacent. They tried to stop the car, guys.

Lesson learned: don't buy a car with more than 75Hp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Cain]

Does anyone have an estimate on how much the Shadowrun/BT licenses cost CGL last time? Assuming, of course, that Topps will even sell it to them again this time.

[Wandering One]

Does anyone have an estimate on how much the Shadowrun/BT licenses cost CGL last time? Assuming, of course, that Topps will even sell it to them again this time.

I personally am as curious as Cain is (as I'm sure a number of people are) but there's probably a minor issue with actually getting this information unless it's public somewhere... CGL doesn't want to end up in a bidding war with anyone and Topps probably doesn't want to release it in case future negotiations provide a lot more capital and don't want a baseline for the competitor to work from.

Nevermind discussions on base cost of license vs. royalty payments with expected sales and advertising reimbursal for promoting the IP of another company... etc. I'm not entirely sure a simple number of $xxx,xxx(,xxx?) would actually be useful outside of the entire contractual document.

Of course, my curiousity hopes Jason Hardy proves me wrong... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[BookWyrm]

After reading all of the posts on this subject, I re-iterate my standing; CGL, please keep us, your fans & customers, in the loop. Conduct proper rumor control, & inform us of pertinent info (price changes, book cancellations, updates, ect.). This is all we ask.

To the rumor-mongers, doom-sayers & other of said ilk, I cast a disproving eye upon thee, & say there is NO honor in such actions. You demean us all.

With that, I hearby turn my back upon this (and other non-useful) rumor thread(s) & move on.

Thank you and good running.

[JM Hardy]

I personally am as curious as Cain is (as I'm sure a number of people are) but there's probably a minor issue with actually getting this information unless it's public somewhere... CGL doesn't want to end up in a bidding war with anyone and Topps probably doesn't want to release it in case future negotiations provide a lot more capital and don't want a baseline for the competitor to work from.

Nevermind discussions on base cost of license vs. royalty payments with expected sales and advertising reimbursal for promoting the IP of another company... etc. I'm not entirely sure a simple number of $xxx,xxx(,xxx?) would actually be useful outside of the entire contractual document.

Of course, my curiousity hopes Jason Hardy proves me wrong... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I imagine that, if I knew this information, I'd likely not be at liberty to share it. However, it's moot--I simply don't know it! Please extend my apologies to your curiosity!

Jason H.

[Wandering One]

I imagine that, if I knew this information, I'd likely not be at liberty to share it. However, it's moot--I simply don't know it! Please extend my apologies to your curiosity!

Jason H.

My curiousity was insisting on going to your house and pounding on your door and throwing a 5 year old's tantrum while pulling your dogs ears until it barked with me. It's now wearing a shock collar in the basement. Thanks though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[BlueMax]

I imagine that, if I knew this information, I'd likely not be at liberty to share it. However, it's moot--I simply don't know it! Please extend my apologies to your curiosity!

Jason H.

The following is buried deep inside sarcasm tags
Jason,
If only you know a commonly used corporate tool, Shadowrunners. Runners as they are often called carry a wide variety of skills that allow them to obtain that which you cannot. Then you could hire a team of these runners to do an datasteal with your inside information to boost them. Why, that should cut the costs for the team down significantly.
Now, if only your target was in the Seattle area. The *BEST* Runners work there. But if you can only afford bush league, may I suggest NY or possibly even Denver.

Halftime fixer , Halftime shaman

and not just because I am a halfer,
BlueMax

[Werewindlefr]

For patriotic reasons, I am more hoping for ITER. And for storage reasons, I'd rather like to see CH3OH run engines or something. It is impossibkle to contain hydrogen, and I'd hate to have my gas tank emptied after a week by diffusion.

Hold on. Wait. What? ITER, Patriotic? Are you a fellow Frenchman?

[pbangarth]

Every once in a while I drop into the latest CGL thread, skip the three or four pages I haven't read, and catch the last few posts.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the number of posts on other threads have dropped since this super-thread has come to life?

[Method]

Almost certainly, which is sad...

[Chrome Tiger]

And extra sad in that there really is nothing of value being posted in these threads. Just speculation, rumor, and alleged insider info.

[Dread Moores]

Paparazzi is owned by Posthuman Studios, and Catalyst never finalized a contract with them -- me -- for the game.

Let me ask the stupid (and possibly unanswerable) question then. Does this mean you're free to get this shopped around and produced quickly? Because I was so, so looking forward to this.

[Dread Moores]

I was going to post something along the lines of "Why do so many conversations come around to how pretty Adam is," but then I realized, how could they not?

Jason H.

And now we come back full circle to the Shadowrun porn idea. I'm thinking you've got a surefire winner here, sir.

[Chrome Tiger]

The man just exudes NerdHot™ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)