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[Method]

And I'm pretty much a collector.

I'm the same way. I often wonder what percentage of SR consumers are the hard core collectors who will buy anything they publish just to have it, and what effect that has on book sales.

[Stahlseele]

I'm the same way. I often wonder what percentage of SR consumers are the hard core collectors who will buy anything they publish just to have it, and what effect that has on book sales.

i'd guess they'd go up O.o

[Adam]

Err... Stahlseele, the "collectors" are already accounted for in sales figures, because they're already collecting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Grexul]

Since I am the GM for our Shadowrun and D&D 4E games; I like to have as much material available as possible. The GM's for the Call of Cthulhu, Mutants & Masterminds and Pathfinder games maintain their own library of source books.
All players are responsible for are whatever book they need for thier PC's. Like if a player wants an ogre shaman, he'll need Shadowrun, Street Magic, Runner's Companion and maybe Digial Grimoire.
And just to put a bug in someones ear, can we get a Los Angeles source book? I have California Free State, NeoA's Guide to NA and Corporate Enclaves, but I'm looking for something along the lines of the Rotten Apple: Manhattan and Seattle 2072!
So there are many of us out here waiting to buy pretty much whatever you put out, as long as the standards are kept high.

Grexul

ps we were thinking of picking up Battletech when the Pathfinder campaign ends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lick.gif)

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[Bob Lord of Evil]

There are a lot of full-on location source books that I would love to see!

Atlanta, Bangkok, Rio, Moscow, D.C., Havana, Instanbul, and New Delhi!

@Adam...new collectors! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Grinder]

And just to put a bug in someones ear, can we get a Los Angeles source book? I have California Free State, NeoA's Guide to NA and Corporate Enclaves, but I'm looking for something along the lines of the Rotten Apple: Manhattan and Seattle 2072!

You should check out Corporate Enclaves.

[Kid Chameleon]

ps we were thinking of picking up Battletech when the Pathfinder campaign ends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lick.gif)

CGL is not responsible for replacing your pants when you check out Masters and Minions.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

You should check out Corporate Enclaves.

Well.... He already has... see your quote, it is in the listing.
I assume that he wants MORE information thant he previous books have provided...

Keep the Faith

[PenAgain]

CGL is not responsible for replacing your pants when you check out Masters and Minions.

But perhaps a pants-replacement policy could buy CGL some much needed goodwill? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

[Delarn]

I got paid and released my hold on Running Wild, for what it's worth. I was not, however, the only person with a hold on that book, and I can speak for no one else in this matter.

As far as I'm concerned, however, RW is free and clear.

Good news Patrick !!!!

[Grinder]

Well.... He already has... see your quote, it is in the listing.
I assume that he wants MORE information thant he previous books have provided...

D'oh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[otakusensei]

I can see the trouble with a yearly anthology book of digital supplements. I know for myself I would be buying the digital releases as I can afford them and then purchasing the physical book. I know a few players in my circles that would be waiting for the physical book because they are not big PDF fans. The idea was floated mostly as a way to make sure that the content you publish reaches all corners of your market.

Personally though I prefer the focused source books rather than the ones that sort of touch on everything. I'd love to see a series of updated core books in the SR4A style. Even if the material was mostly recycled I'd love to have some full color hardbound Anniversary editions next to SR4A.

[BlueMax]

CGL is not responsible for replacing your pants when you check out Masters and Minions.

If any Shadowrun book came out that was as well written and produced as Masters and Minions, I would need a defibrillator handy. The quantity, consistency and quality of writing in that book moved many of my players to great interest in A Time of War. Now if CGL could just the get dead tree version moving.


BlueMax

[Kid Chameleon]

If any Shadowrun book came out that was as well written and produced as Masters and Minions, I would need a defibrillator handy. The quantity, consistency and quality of writing in that book moved many of my players to great interest in A Time of War. Now if CGL could just the get dead tree version moving.


BlueMax

That should be available, we sold print versions at GenCon.

[Adam]

He means the print version of A Time of War. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[BlueMax]

He means the print version of A Time of War. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ToW:Indeed. Best $10 I've ever spent on a PDF.
M&M:Best $50 I've ever spent on a paperback.

To be clear: Its not the color that makes M&M such a great book.

BlueMax

[The Dragon Girl]

I hoard books, I'm almost certain I have enough of the things between my reading addiction and my P&P addiction to build a small fort and sniper people out of it with a nerf gun. I only ever get rid of douplicates..and thats only if they are the exact same edition with no differentiation between them >.>

[Stahlseele]

For the Record:
Don't expect any future postings from Frank Trollman, he got handed a permanent ban.

[nezumi]

He legally seeded Eclipse Phase to BitTorrent, and still sold out of hardcopies *and* had a strong sale on e-copies. I don't think you have much to worry about.

Really? Eclipse Phase is available legally on BitTorrent? I was looking to buy this in July. Discounting that I like to support awesome games, why would I pay for it rather than download it?

[DireRadiant]

Cool art and stuff, better layout

[Megu]

Personally I am still so very very hopeful about the Atlas.. I -need- info on Tir Na Nog, and France and Amazonia for two different games (I'm playing a pixie in one! Native to the Tir and moved to France then to LA.. only theres no recent info *arm flail*)

Personally, it's Southeast Asia I'd love to see more about. The Dega Alliance stuff going on in Vietnam, the Naga in Cambodia, the struggle for control of Laos... none of it's gotten much attention as of late, and I'd love to see more.

And as for PDFs and books and things, I gotta say, I will happily pay significantly more for a physical book. Maybe I'm a dinosaur, but I am deeply intrinsically uncomfortable with the idea of paying for data, for an image of something, unless I'm paying with a scanned image of my money. So the existence of things that are solely online, like 10 Gangs, troubles me.

[Adam]

Really? Eclipse Phase is available legally on BitTorrent? I was looking to buy this in July. Discounting that I like to support awesome games, why would I pay for it rather than download it?

Easier access to updates. Easier to tick the "Email me updates about this PDF" than watch a bittorrent tracker all the time, I think.

That, though, is one reason we did seed it to bittorrent -- we believe that there are a portion of gamers that "get their new release info" from bittorrent trackers and other sharing sites, as opposed to DriveThruRPG, RPG.net, or other "traditional" gaming sites. I don't want to fight those people. They're gamers, too, and I fully believe -- and have evidence to support it -- that they will support games that are awesome, even if they could otherwise get them for free.

But of course, the main reason to do so is: buying games helps ensure that those games will continue to be produced. We're likely going to explore a few more options for people who want to be "supporters" of Eclipse Phase and who are willing to kick in more than the retail price to help more money go to the creators of each project.

[Stahlseele]

Basically, what Adam is doing, is proving once again, that piracy is not a big problem, if your product is actually worth being bought . .
I had no intentions on getting eclipse phase, but i support things like this.

[Cain]

He legally seeded Eclipse Phase to BitTorrent, and still sold out of hardcopies *and* had a strong sale on e-copies. I don't think you have much to worry about.

Really? Eclipse Phase is available legally on BitTorrent? I was looking to buy this in July. Discounting that I like to support awesome games, why would I pay for it rather than download it?

Adam already answered this one. Basically, there's a percentage of fans who will pay for your product, even if it's available for free elsewhere. I know I paid for a copy of Wushu, even though I can get access to the fan-based Wushu Open Reloaded project for free.

[Rotbart van Dain...]

The really important thing about EP is not that it's available for free, too – it's that it Free Content, licensed CC-BY-NC-SA-3.

So if you want to provide fan material, you are allowed to pick things from the releases and use it according to the license – in fact, the GM screen is available with the production files so you can modify it to your liking.