[X] My Assistant

[Rotbart van Dain...]

Disagreeing with posters and pointing out that someone's ban is well-deserved is hardly "gravedancing."

Contrary to your current posting style, your first post qualifies as such – as for the rest…

[…] maybe you should read both my first post […]

You should try that, too – "like he wanted to, anyway" and all.

Edit: In fact, for reading comprehension:

Octopii said the forums would be worse off without him.

If you want to moderate out of existence anything resembling a heated discussion, that's your prerogative. The forums will be worse off for it.

Emphasis mine. /Edit

At which point, apparently, I deserved to die.

So you're feeling a little martyr, too? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

[Cain]

Disagreeing with posters and pointing out that someone's ban is well-deserved is hardly "gravedancing." As with most people who seem to get their feathers ruffled over things I say, maybe you should read both my first post and the one that I was replying to right above it before throwing terms like that around. Octopii said the forums would be worse off without him. I disagreed and explained why. Then Rotbart comes in decrying him a matyr, and I proceeded to laugh my ass off at that notion. At which point, apparently, I deserved to die.

I'm not saying you "deserve to die", although I do find it ironic in light of the comments on martyrdom you've made.

I am saying it's in poor taste.

Taste is subjective, and you don't have to agree with me. But since apparently a lot of us are finding your gravedancing to be in poor taste, maybe there's a point to be made?

[Ol' Scratch]

<shrugs> If agreeing that the ban was appropriate and that the forums are better off without his kind of posts to rile people up, insult new members, or encourage religious intolerance is "gravedancing," so be it. And no, being upset that some baiting troll wishes me to break my neck is not even remotely similar to rolling my eyes at calling someone who's been banned a "martyr.".

[Cthulhudreams]

How did Frank get banned for that, and Doc Funk didn't get banned for similar (worse?) attacks in the same thread - and as a regular, I know that Doc has also been repeatedly given time outs before.

The two are pretty similar in behaviour and histories, seems very weird not to ban both of them - even Doc Funk's posts in this thread (calling someone a a shifty and coniving little man) are worse.

What IS a personal attack if that isn't one?

[Ol' Scratch]

Feel free to find a single post where I advocated or indulged in religious intolerance. Feel free to find a single post where I outright attacked a new poster after they basically said "I doubt if you'd remember me from another forum." Feel free to find a single post where I posted people's personal information or encouraged other people to do so. Feel free to find a single post where I posted private communications without permission. Feel free to find a single post where I was permanently banned in the past. Feel free to find a single post even hinting that I've been giving 'final warnings' because of that abysmal type of behavior that has no business on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a roleplaying game.

I should warn you, however, to not waste your time looking because I can assure you that you won't find anything like that from me. What you will find is me growling at people who say stupid things, and then only because they've said stupid things. You know, like this asinine "martyr" crap. You may even find me making a few snide remarks about people in the same vein. But you won't find any of the vile things Trollman does on a regular basis, even if he hides it behind well-written posts and holier-than-thou attitudes that people eat up wholesale simply because, for the month anyway, they're also upset about the same people he's ranting, raving, and spamming multiple forums about.

Sure, I'll admit that it was probably wrong of me to call him a shifty, conniving little man even if that's what I firmly believe him to be, especially in context of the conversation at hand at the time. But people get away with calling me much worse around here without warnings on a regular basis, too. Not that it's an excuse so much as a "so what?" If I get put on another break because of it, so be it. It'll be deserved if it's deemed to be so. I can tell you what I won't be doing if that happens, though: Trying to get people to rant and rave while I go around spamming other forums, ridiculing the moderators here for doing so. You can't say the same about Trollman.

[Grinder]

The two are pretty similar in behaviour and histories, seems very weird not to ban both of them - even Doc Funk's posts in this thread (calling someone a a shifty and coniving little man) are worse.

What IS a personal attack if that isn't one?

There is a difference between a warning and a ban (temporary or permanent). You get warned for any post that is against the ToS - if you've received enough warnings, you'll get a temporary ban. A permanent ban is the last action that is taken and not one that is done lightly.

So much for now, this thread is closed.