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 Apr 13 2010, 09:22 AM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749  |
Can you somehow cancel the effects of glamour? Possibly with a physical mask spell or masking? Helmet?
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Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 9-December 09 Member No.: 17,955 |
From the description of Glamour, it's effects sound independent of appearance, so I don't think that a mask spell would negate any bonuses. It will probably have them remembering a different person though.
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Apr 13 2010, 07:09 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Do everything through VR. I doubt the effects of Glamour (and Nasty Vibe) are passed through the Matrix.
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Apr 13 2010, 07:12 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Isn't Glamour a magical effect?
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Apr 13 2010, 07:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 13 2010, 09:12 PM)  Isn't Glamour a magical effect? Yes |
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Apr 13 2010, 07:52 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Do magical effects translate into computer code?
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Apr 13 2010, 07:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Apr 13 2010, 02:52 PM) Do magical effects translate into computer code? Not yet..but someone I am sure is working on it. |
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Apr 13 2010, 08:10 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
What I thought.
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Apr 13 2010, 08:19 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
make your deals somewhere with background count, lowered magic, lowered glamour, right?
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Apr 13 2010, 09:30 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
The trouble is, someone with glamour is "paranaturally gifted", not magically active. Glamour doesn't even have a rating.
Like Achsin said, though, disguises still work - you won't have much luck impersonating, say, a security guard, or blending into the background nearly any other way, but at least they won't be remembering your real appearance. |
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Apr 14 2010, 01:30 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
For my players who read the Dresden Files, Glamour is more easily explained via the Thomas effect. No matter how hard he tries to hide it, he draws attention.
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Apr 14 2010, 01:32 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
Toturi, I just gained a whole new respect for you.
That's a fantastic way of describing it too. |
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Apr 14 2010, 11:41 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Apr 13 2010, 08:58 PM) Not yet..but someone I am sure is working on it. But surely someone else could copy the code, and so on, until it's just another icon option with no effect whatsoever, outside of fluff. |
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Apr 14 2010, 11:50 PM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
can you put blandness and glamor together or is it ruled out. "He stood out but he looks just like everyone..."
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Apr 15 2010, 12:05 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
QUOTE (Dumori @ Apr 15 2010, 12:50 AM) can you put blandness and glamor together or is it ruled out. "He stood out but he looks just like everyone..." It's legal by RAW. I'd allow it as well. The glamour's effects could only be noticeable at second glance. Someone you would overlook in the first moment, but who'd have a vibrant, magnetic presence once he gets to talk to people. Calm, stoic, but compulsive and determined. Why not? Sounds better than characters sparkling in sunlight. A character with both Glamour and Blandness would still suffer from a +1 modifier to trace attempts, after shelling out 25 BP for social qualities. |
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Apr 15 2010, 01:58 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 12-March 10 From: Middle of Nowhere, Iowa Member No.: 18,283 |
Good ideas that I'll remember to bring up to our glamoured social adept.
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Apr 15 2010, 03:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
Fun trivia : i've heard the term glamour originally comes from Scottish folk tales.
Used to be the name for a type of love spell. Or better : curse. If a woman casts a glamour on a man, this man is not noticed by other women anymore, finally leaving him with the choice of either settling for the caster or a life of loneliness. Oddly fitting for the combination of Glamour and Blandness. |
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Apr 15 2010, 03:24 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I think it's actually just a word for 'spell' (in 18th century Scottish), while the 'beauty/charm' meaning evolved maybe a century after.
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Apr 15 2010, 03:31 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Actually, I think it originally was a variation of 'grammar' that eventually was bastardized into a word to identify scholars who studied the occult. It then evolved into a term for magic in general, and eventually became more and more associated with the fey folk and beauty as a whole as time passed.
<is not a fan of faerie lore at all> |
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Apr 15 2010, 03:35 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I think you'll find that it evolved into a term for magic in general _in 18th century Scottish_, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That's where 'glamor' comes from. The rest is true, but doesn't contradict the previous statement.
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