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post Apr 19 2010, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Apr 19 2010, 03:03 PM) *
Well that's kinda the thing. If they're over a year late as is, with people having ordered them a year ago still not having received them. I'm curious as to the realistic expectation of ordering now and actually getting one.

I guess I'm saying "Ok they're off the boat, but how many in the box were already accounted for'?


As I said, check the link in the stickied thread. When they said they were on the boat they were still selling them.
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post Apr 20 2010, 02:52 AM
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so is vice going to be available as a PDF soon or not?

Did parts of vice get re written?

If yes: which parts of vice got re writen?
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (OneTrikPony @ Apr 19 2010, 09:52 PM) *
so is vice going to be available as a PDF soon or not?

Did parts of vice get re written?

If yes: which parts of vice got re writen?


Vice should be available again soon. None of it needed to be rewritten.

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post Apr 20 2010, 03:12 AM
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Xcelent!

Thanks JM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 19 2010, 10:03 PM) *
Vice should be available again soon. None of it needed to be rewritten.

Jason H.



What about DotA:Midnight? Do I have a collectors item here or what?
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE (otakusensei @ Apr 19 2010, 10:56 PM) *
What about DotA:Midnight? Do I have a collectors item here or what?


I hate to break it to you, but probably not. That should be freed up at about the same time as Vice.

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post Apr 20 2010, 03:59 AM
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On the topic of DotA:Midnight: any chance we will see a free pdf of color maps like those released for Dawn Dusk?

Edit: fixed (I don't know whats wrong with me tonight...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Apr 19 2010, 10:59 PM) *
On the topic of DotA:Midnight: any chance we will see a free pdf of color maps like those released for Dawn?


Hmmm . . . that's a good question. I'll have to check on that one.

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post Apr 20 2010, 04:10 AM
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Free colour maps for Dusk? Where?

Amazon keep telling me that my Midnight order is only 1 -->3 weeks away.

Then again, they also tell me the Runner's Toolkit is only 1 --> 2 months away....

I guess that is like relying on Microsoft minutes....
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:11 AM
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Figures. I order Vice for a pretty penny off Ebay, and they turn around and put it back up as a cheep pdf a week later.

Damn Troll like lack of patience!
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:28 AM
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QUOTE (Lithium @ Apr 19 2010, 10:10 PM) *
Free colour maps for Dusk? Where?
Actually, I think I got my wires crossed. The color maps for Dusk were part of the enhanced pdf bundle. It was maps for Ghost Cartels that they released for free.
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:57 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Apr 19 2010, 08:28 PM) *
Actually, I think I got my wires crossed. The color maps for Dusk were part of the enhanced pdf bundle. It was maps for Ghost Cartels that they released for free.

I didn't find the Ghost Cartels maps to be very useful. I only go over them in a paragraph in my review; but basically, they don't look so impressive in B&W, the scale is wrong for tactical maps, and they have too much GM info to be used as player handouts. I can't figure out what they're useful for.
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post Apr 20 2010, 05:15 AM
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I agree about the "too much GM info" point. Sean Macdonald does some beautiful work, but there is definitely the sense that he is trying to pack everything onto a single page for printing purposes.

If I were a SR Line Developer (ahem... hint, hint (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) I would post a free pdf of the maps without legends, keys, GM notes or even titles strictly to be used as player handouts.
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post Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM
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And if you're not a line developer, your maps are still a welcome treat. I don't play much SR these days, but I still hope to see some more of your work. I can certainly offer you payment competitive with CGL's standard first quarter 2010 freelancer payments! I think a beer or two outdoes them by a pretty wide stretch! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 10:51 AM
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So what was the deal with Midnight?

Were some copies released in print-form before it was pulled?

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post Apr 20 2010, 12:17 PM
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As I have bought a print copy of Midnight two weeks ago at my FLGS, I'd say they were, yes.
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post Apr 20 2010, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (ShimmerGeek @ Apr 20 2010, 05:51 AM) *
So what was the deal with Midnight?

Were some copies released in print-form before it was pulled?



Yes, as I understand it the preorders were shipped before the higher ups notified Troy about the hold. Stories differ as to what the timeframe was but it's generally seen as a black mark that CGL shipped them out at all.

QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 19 2010, 10:58 PM) *
I hate to break it to you, but probably not. That should be freed up at about the same time as Vice.

Jason H.


Actually, Jason, I think this is great news. I really liked Midnight and I'm glad it gets to stay in it's original form. Double glad because this means that the writers were paid for their work.
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post Apr 20 2010, 02:26 PM
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Wow wow wow... Jason, I've listened to your interview on Nerd News Network... what's this thing about War being released this summer? Have there been good news we haven't been informed of yet? Does this mean we can *hope* (a slim hope, as they say in Fallout 2) to see the Runner's Toolkit and the rest of the awesome stuff in a similar timeframe?

And Aztlan vs. Amazonia? WTF? I feel that Aztechnology's position as the 2nd megacorp is threatened. Are they going to Renraku-themselves in the foot?
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post Apr 20 2010, 02:35 PM
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Keep your pantaloons on.
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:15 PM
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Alternatively, is the rumor true about the Catalyst shipping computer being gone due to it's owner no longer being with the company?


I wouldn't call it a "rumour"... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ Apr 20 2010, 10:35 AM) *
Keep your pantaloons on.

Must we keep our dwarf sized tentacle pants on as well?
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (sirdoom @ Apr 20 2010, 04:15 PM) *
I wouldn't call it a "rumour"... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif)


If that is true, and I were the owner of said computer, I would still laugh my ass of. This really would be the most stupid move of a business owner I have ever heard of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Oh, and being fired and having free time to spare, I would've started testing a new OS and truecrypting the complete harddrive afterwards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Apr 20 2010, 03:30 AM) *
And if you're not a line developer, your maps are still a welcome treat.
Thanks man. To be clear that was a hint for Jason. I wouldn't not want the job of SR Line Developer (hell no!).

And unfortunately I won't be in Seattle much more. Couple days in June for graduation and then Im out. You'll have to mail me those beers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:13 PM
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So is Wyoming still your plan? I'll actually be out there sometime this summer to visit a friend in Rawlings - an old CO friend from my time in the field that got an offer he couldn't refuse - I really have to buy him some beers too!
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Apr 20 2010, 09:26 AM) *
Wow wow wow... Jason, I've listened to your interview on Nerd News Network... what's this thing about War being released this summer? Have there been good news we haven't been informed of yet? Does this mean we can *hope* (a slim hope, as they say in Fallout 2) to see the Runner's Toolkit and the rest of the awesome stuff in a similar timeframe?

And Aztlan vs. Amazonia? WTF? I feel that Aztechnology's position as the 2nd megacorp is threatened. Are they going to Renraku-themselves in the foot?


As is my general tendency, I'm going to keep on moving forward with projects and making plans until I'm told I can't. I haven't been told that yet. So War! has its place in the pipeline, and we will work toward that.

As far as the details of War--well, I'm not gonna discuss them this early, am I? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Jason H.
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