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 Jun 7 2010, 09:03 PM
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#176
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935  |
It's old canon.
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Jun 7 2010, 09:59 PM
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#177
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2010, 10:03 PM)  It's old canon. I've friggin' read it this weekend somewhere and can't remember where. Maybe in one of the timelines? Shadows of North America? Grrr...might've just been the wiki... |
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Jun 7 2010, 11:22 PM
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#178
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 27-June 05 From: FL, USA Member No.: 7,468 |
QUOTE (Abstruse @ Jun 7 2010, 05:59 PM) I've friggin' read it this weekend somewhere and can't remember where. Maybe in one of the timelines? Shadows of North America? Grrr...might've just been the wiki... Out of curiosity, I did a quick scan of Neo-Anarchist Guide to North America and didn't see anything there. I did find it in Shadows of North America. 10 November 2034 is listed in the CAS Timeline on page 58 as being Secession Day. Don't know if it shows up elsewhere, but there is one spot. |
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Jun 8 2010, 01:56 AM
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#179
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 27-November 09 From: Los Angeles, PCC Member No.: 17,905 |
Awesome. I'm just glad to see my beloved Corps get some love, even if its unintentional.
QUOTE (brennanhawkwood @ Jun 7 2010, 04:22 PM) Out of curiosity, I did a quick scan of Neo-Anarchist Guide to North America and didn't see anything there. I did find it in Shadows of North America. 10 November 2034 is listed in the CAS Timeline on page 58 as being Secession Day. Don't know if it shows up elsewhere, but there is one spot. |
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Jun 8 2010, 01:58 AM
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#180
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (LivingOxymoron @ Jun 8 2010, 02:56 AM) Awesome. I'm just glad to see my beloved Corps get some love, even if its unintentional. You realize it probably has more to do with November 10, 1860 and the secession of South Carolina, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) There was quite a bit of discussion about how the Marine Corps would handle the UCAS/CAS split and their possible support of reunification, but nothing came of it, sadly. |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:24 AM
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#181
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 8 Joined: 1-March 10 Member No.: 18,221 |
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANCIENT
god, I love your stuff, sry that it isnt canon anymore, but the Kaos part is just.... so everything I love about Shadowrun. Like the whole stuff you wrote. *big grin* I feel the love ^^ |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:44 AM
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#182
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (redska @ Jun 8 2010, 12:24 AM) THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANCIENT god, I love your stuff, sry that it isnt canon anymore, but the Kaos part is just.... so everything I love about Shadowrun. Like the whole stuff you wrote. *big grin* I feel the love ^^ Not canon? Screw you, *I* decide what's canon in my games damnit and Kaos is friggin' canon! I saw we revolt! |
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Jun 8 2010, 08:07 AM
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#183
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 572 Joined: 6-February 09 From: London Uk Member No.: 16,848 |
QUOTE (Abstruse @ Jun 8 2010, 07:44 AM) Not canon? Screw you, *I* decide what's canon in my games damnit and Kaos is friggin' canon! I saw we revolt! I second the vote that the reanimation of the digital mind of the good Captain be henceforth considered Canon by all right thinking GM's |
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Jun 8 2010, 08:33 AM
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#184
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Everything in the Ancient Files is considered Canon by the People i know.
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Jun 8 2010, 08:37 AM
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#185
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 8 Joined: 1-March 10 Member No.: 18,221 |
yep in my runs and short stories are the Ancient Files canon too.
I therefor join the revolution. Let the seeds of the E-Ghosts float through our runs, through our own sixth world! |
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Jun 8 2010, 02:40 PM
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#186
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 23-March 10 From: Nashville, TN, CAS Member No.: 18,348 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 8 2010, 03:33 AM) Everything in the Ancient Files is considered Canon by the People i know. Everything in the Ancient Files is Cannon in my games - runners beware if you don't read them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) -M&P |
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Jun 8 2010, 05:10 PM
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#187
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (MindandPen @ Jun 8 2010, 09:40 AM) Everything in the Ancient Files is Cannon in my games - runners beware if you don't read them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) -M&P I'm about to run a game with a bunch of newbies, starting them in 2051 with the bugs working through Harlequin to get to the Horrors and Harlequin's Back, then putting them in the middle of the election and finishing off the Horrors, so on and so forth all the way up into the Crash. I've BANNED my players from reading AH so that when they get that run into the Renraku Archology to lift out an exec on December 24, 2061, they don't know what's coming. I'm actually going to wait until one of them says "This is going too smoothly" before I drop the Deus on them. |
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Jun 8 2010, 05:15 PM
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#188
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE into the Renraku Archology to lift out an exec on December 24, 2061, You are undeniably evil. I approve wholeheartedly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
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Jun 8 2010, 05:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Jun 8 2010, 12:15 PM) You are undeniably evil. I approve wholeheartedly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) I'm not kidding...the extraction is going to go perfectly to whatever their original plan is. Security's going to be elsewhere or on a bathroom break, alarms will suddenly fail, bystanders will offer assistance, everything is going to run absolutely perfectly...and if they can manage to NOT say the magic words, they'll get out. They'll complete the run and the shutdown happens immediately after they exit. However, if they DARE to tempt fate...if they even breath anything remotely like "This is too easy"...that's when gates slam shut. |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:06 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
May they say "I have a bad feeling about this" instead? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 8 2010, 06:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE (Abstruse @ Jun 8 2010, 01:39 PM) I'm not kidding...the extraction is going to go perfectly to whatever their original plan is. Security's going to be elsewhere or on a bathroom break, alarms will suddenly fail, bystanders will offer assistance, everything is going to run absolutely perfectly...and if they can manage to NOT say the magic words, they'll get out. They'll complete the run and the shutdown happens immediately after they exit. However, if they DARE to tempt fate...if they even breath anything remotely like "This is too easy"...that's when gates slam shut. For their sakes I hope they don't say it. For yours i hope they do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Jun 8 2010, 12:08 PM) For their sakes I hope they don't say it. For yours i hope they do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Oh, they're getting involved one way or another...it's just whether they're going to be inside trying to break out or outside trying to break in for the next few sessions... |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:24 PM
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#193
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
I'm reading what you wrote for India. Because I was curious.
I'm just starting but I have a question. Why in /Hades left testicle/ is the new Sikh country called Khalistan? -stan is a muslim denominator. The Sikh and Muslims hate each other with a passion that is rivaled pretty much by noone. They make the Palestinian/Jewish conflict look positively friendly. Why are the Sikhs in the Kashmir Valley? They're originally from Punjabi It's just. Was this info pulled from previous source or just bad homework? So much could have been done with India. The tech industry, the caste system. It reads very dissapointing. |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 16-March 10 Member No.: 18,299 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 8 2010, 02:24 PM) It's just. Was this info pulled from previous source or just bad homework? It wouldn't be the first time Shadowrun used bad research. A lot of the Asian source names from way back when (2nd Edition, etc.) are actually Surname + Surname instead of having a First name in there somewhere. |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:35 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 8 2010, 07:24 PM) I'm reading what you wrote for India. Because I was curious. I'm just starting but I have a question. Why in /Hades left testicle/ is the new Sikh country called Khalistan? Shadows of Asia. QUOTE -stan is a muslim denominator. The Sikh and Muslims hate each other with a passion that is rivaled pretty much by noone. They make the Palestinian/Jewish conflict look positively friendly. Why are the Sikhs in the Kashmir Valley? They're originally from Punjabi Shadows of Asia. QUOTE It's just. Was this info pulled from previous source or just bad homework? So much could have been done with India. The tech industry, the caste system. It reads very dissapointing. I would like to have done more with India. I was limited a great deal by wordcount, and on the depiction in SoA. I mean, when you really look at countries like India and China, they are massive and old and very, very strange. There are ethnicities there that most Americans have never even heard of, and they exist in relatively massive numbers. |
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Jun 8 2010, 06:46 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 8 2010, 06:35 PM) Shadows of Asia. Shadows of Asia. I would like to have done more with India. I was limited a great deal by wordcount, and on the depiction in SoA. I mean, when you really look at countries like India and China, they are massive and old and very, very strange. There are ethnicities there that most Americans have never even heard of, and they exist in relatively massive numbers. Okay its' an old bias from the 80's source book. I can live with that. Really India could be it's very own Source Book. Also Something it might be nice for CGL to do. Is to take some of the canon from previous editions that's clearly badly researched, and updated it. That was my point. There are ethnicities, mystical 'traditions'. Vishnu Adepts, Thuggies, a booming IT industry. One of the largest IT companies in the /world/ is Indian. And that's not including Chinese stuff. Shaolin Monks, and fighting monks (Mystic Adepts, and Adepts) Wujen Tradition spellcasters. Dragons. So much could be one with both those places. Instead they get a little paragraph that amounts to "wow these places suck" |
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Jun 8 2010, 07:01 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 8 2010, 02:46 PM) Okay its' an old bias from the 80's source book. I can live with that. Shadows of Asia isn't an 80s book. It's a 2000's book from Third Edition. QUOTE Really India could be it's very own Source Book. Also Something it might be nice for CGL to do. Is to take some of the canon from previous editions that's clearly badly researched, and updated it. That was my point. There are ethnicities, mystical 'traditions'. Vishnu Adepts, Thuggies, a booming IT industry. One of the largest IT companies in the /world/ is Indian. And that's not including Chinese stuff. Shaolin Monks, and fighting monks (Mystic Adepts, and Adepts) Wujen Tradition spellcasters. Dragons. So much could be one with both those places. Instead they get a little paragraph that amounts to "wow these places suck" India could easily be its own sourcebook. Except the publishers have never wanted a full India sourcebook (likely because those types of books sell very poorly these days). Though the India write-up in Shadows of Asia is significantly larger than the piece in the Sixth World Almanac will be. |
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Jun 8 2010, 07:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 946 Joined: 16-September 05 From: London Member No.: 7,753 |
QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Jun 8 2010, 08:01 PM) Shadows of Asia isn't an 80s book. It's a 2000's book from Third Edition. India could easily be its own sourcebook. Except the publishers have never wanted a full India sourcebook (likely because those types of books sell very poorly these days). Though the India write-up in Shadows of Asia is significantly larger than the piece in the Sixth World Almanac will be. ...But there's nothing stopping fans putting some material together - even if it's just a multi-system guide. I did create a thread for such fan material... |
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Jun 8 2010, 07:18 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 8 2010, 02:46 PM) Also Something it might be nice for CGL to do. Is to take some of the canon from previous editions that's clearly badly researched, and updated it. That would amount to reconning most of the fucked up insanities of the SR timeline, and many of those (the NAN for a big example) are sacred cows. |
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Jun 8 2010, 07:21 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Jun 8 2010, 07:18 PM) That would amount to reconning most of the fucked up insanities of the SR timeline, and many of those (the NAN for a big example) are sacred cows. the NAN? that's one part I actually really like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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