In Neptune's Realm - OOC thread, Chatter on the high seas Options

[Penta]

That's fine.

[Penta]

Sunday isn't over yet, so this may be premature. However, not that many of the Quicksilver group have piped up on the thread since I nudged. This may be because I forgot today was July 4th til last night as I fell asleep (silly me), hence I'm figuring our US players are off celebrating the holiday, and our Canadian players had Canada Day a few days back.

That being the case, I'm going to hold off til sometime tomorrow on going "OK here's what I see" as Walker, summarizing the decisions made, and moving things forward. I'd like it if everybody on Quicksilver could post something summarizing the week from their perspective, but I'm not going to wait.

[GrimWulf]

been having some irl issues lately. I promise i'll have a post up later today though (monday)

[Penta]

Just a quick note, since Horvagab asked: For right now, I'm not integrating Sixth World Almanac or Corporate Guide into Neptune's Realm canon. Not that I won't, just not yet.

Reason: I just got them yesterday. They're both massive books. I'm not done with Corp Guide yet, and haven't even started 6WA.

[Minchandre]

6WA actually has something of interest on the map for Cherry - namely, that Israel appears to have annexed Lebanon. Thus, her peace-time experience was probably a little bit more war-like that she would have enjoyed.

[Penta]

Yeah, I don't see an entry for Israel in the TOC either. Shame, because I would have loved an explanation of "How dumb were they, going back to Lebanon again?" I mean damn, wasn't one experience eerily like Vietnam enough?

In other words, let's leave it be until we can go through it, or at least until I can.

[Digital Heroin]

Wait a tick... SWA and CG are both out already? Fuck my local gaming stores suck...

[Minchandre]

Wait a tick... SWA and CG are both out already? Fuck my local gaming stores suck...

Only in PDF. Hardcopy is going to wait a while. 6WA at least could use a little more proofing. CG, too, but not as badly.

[Penta]

Only in PDF. Hardcopy is going to wait a while. 6WA at least could use a little more proofing. CG, too, but not as badly.

Agreed. So agreed. CG wasn't horrific (I'm almost done with it), actually rather good, but from what I'm hearing here on DS, 6WA in its current form probably has little business heading to the printers, simply because editing was so rushed.

[Faraday]

Sorry about being so lethargic on posting. My right hemisphere decided that the last couple weeks was a good time to take a vacation. Luckily, my left has worked in its absence, but it's a lot less creative.

[Penta]

Damn braincations!:)

[Penta]

Mmmkay guys.

I read through Corp Guide in a sustained stretch yesterday. The better part of 234 PDF pages.

Good book, I think. I have no *idea* where to place it in the timeline because of the lack of a Jackpoint page, but while I feel free to say it's not completely accurate (for instance, I don't see the AAAs or AAs as out-sourcing all of their logistics ops, as stated in the Maersk section; instead I see them having international logistics capabilities, but that nobody could possibly do all of the logistics for a AAA or even a manufacturing-focused AA on their own, not even the AAAs. Hence, they outsource a lot of it), I'm going to say that you can, by and large, rely on the info contained therein. The Aztechnology section makes blood magic even more confusing so far as "What is known to the public ICly?", but I'm going to handwave the brain-melting confusion by presuming that Ivy (horvagab's mage) got a full briefing under classified conditions as part of her Thaumaturgical Officer training off-camera.

I'm now going through Sixth World Almanac. I don't know what to think of it yet (I am cranky about the 2006 sidebar showing up for 2020), as I'm only 35-40 pages in to a 200+ page book.

I will endeavor to handle it like this: I'm going to read the rest of the timeline part of 6WA, then I'll grab lunch. Then I'll start the slow perfectionist process of writing the scene-shift. Idea being I should be done by tonight.

[Dumori]

All books this year should be 2072 IIRC

[Penta]

Yeah, but when during 2072?

[Dumori]

Its a one to one date map so the street date.

[Penta]

6WA seems to cover until 2073 - it lists events in the timeline happening in November 2072, for one thing. So I'm gonna say we don't apply 6WA to Neptune's Realm yet.

I'll finish reading the book over coming days (I finished with the timeline and stopped) and try and come to conclusions as I digest things.

On that note - I was fiddling with Faraday's yummy spreadsheet and noticed something.

Say you have an incoming of money (say a ship capture) worth 100k nuyen.

25k goes to the Navy. OK.

25k goes to upkeep and repair. OK.

12500 goes to Crew Share.

Each member gets 1250, presuming 10 crew, for a total of 12500.

Does anybody else spot the Math Fail?

Even if the crew share is separate from the money paid out per crewmember, say for medical care that's more than Roger can do or something or for other big purchases...

Where the hell did that last 25k go? For those doing the sums at home, 25 + 25 + 12.5 + 12.5 = 75.

It needs to equal 100.

This was all spotted only because I'm having Walker summarize the takings discussion. Obviously, I'll delay the post until we figure out where the math failed.

[Edana]

The problem is that the sheet is calculating the crew share as half of the upkeep, rather than as half of the initial sum. (The split should be 25/25/50, with the 50 further divided amongst the crew, 10 people in this case.) This can be fixed by changing the 'D' references in column E to 'B' references. (On line 8 for instance it would be "=PRODUCT(B8*0.5)" instead of "=PRODUCT(D8*0.5)".)

It would probably be wise to change the share per member column to use a separate cell with the actual crew count as a divisor, rather that multiplying by 0.1, as that better allows for people joining/leaving, which tends to happen in PbP games.

I put a copy up on google docs, it's currently editable w/o a sign-in so you can see what I mean. (Hopefully no one will feel the need to break it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) .)
Google Docs Version

[Digital Heroin]

Ok so I am currently in Hope B.C. with a dead alternator and no cable for my netbook... I may be net ready over the next few days, but I can guarantee nothing.

[Penta]

The problem is that the sheet is calculating the crew share as half of the upkeep, rather than as half of the initial sum. (The split should be 25/25/50, with the 50 further divided amongst the crew, 10 people in this case.) This can be fixed by changing the 'D' references in column E to 'B' references. (On line 8 for instance it would be "=PRODUCT(B8*0.5)" instead of "=PRODUCT(D8*0.5)".)

It would probably be wise to change the share per member column to use a separate cell with the actual crew count as a divisor, rather that multiplying by 0.1, as that better allows for people joining/leaving, which tends to happen in PbP games.

I put a copy up on google docs, it's currently editable w/o a sign-in so you can see what I mean. (Hopefully no one will feel the need to break it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) .)
Google Docs Version

Points well taken. Okay yay, I can write the scene shift.

[Minchandre]

Ok so I am currently in Hope B.C. with a dead alternator and no cable for my netbook... I may be net ready over the next few days, but I can guarantee nothing.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

I hope your alternator gets fixed!

[Faraday]

Stuff on spreadsheet issue.

Yet again, slight misplacement of a variable creates issues. I meant for the Crew total share to be total*.5. That would be B(x)*.5 instead of D(x)*.5.

I'll fix that now and post a link when finished as the google docs link seems at issue (maybe it's just me).

Ok so I am currently in Hope B.C. with a dead alternator and no cable for my netbook... I may be net ready over the next few days, but I can guarantee nothing.

I feel for ya, I've had on and off battery issues for six months. They finally went away with a new battery, but I got stuck a lot in the meantime.

[Faraday]

Remember what I said about the new spreadsheet?

Link!

Crap, cell E18 has one too many 8s in it.

[Minchandre]

So, Cherry's doing some shopping, and I need to OOC resolve them before I write up the IC. She'll be going to New York City to make these purchases. Note also that, with permission, Cherry's HVAR is registered with Ares, with all the pluses and minuses that that entails (it's definitely registered in Israel, and she bought it legally from an Ares store, so it seems likely it's registered with them as well). I don't think any of them are going to need availability rolls except possibly the modification, but it is as always the GM's call.

One round trip train (or other transit) ticket from Cape May to New York City (I need cost and availability for this one)
Gel Rounds (caseless assault rifle) 200, 600 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) each, 4R
Additional Clip modification for her HVAR, 2400 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , 10R (she'll also need to find and pay for labor)
Zoe Executive Suite suit (long coat, 2 shirts, pants), 2350 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , 9

As I recall, Cherry has 8500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . I briefly considered having her get a Blackout as well, but I think she's the sort of "accidentally forget" the non-killing orders when she's in cyberspace. The suit is because the last party made her realize that there are situations between "cocktail dress" and "fatigues", and an armored suit fits most of those nicely.

[Edana]

I'll fix that now and post a link when finished as the google docs link seems at issue (maybe it's just me).

Yeah, google docs is being weird at the moment, if I sign out I have to refresh the page to get the sheet to show after clicking the link. No idea why it's doing that. Just refreshing it seems to work though.

[Penta]

So, Cherry's doing some shopping, and I need to OOC resolve them before I write up the IC. She'll be going to New York City to make these purchases. Note also that, with permission, Cherry's HVAR is registered with Ares, with all the pluses and minuses that that entails (it's definitely registered in Israel, and she bought it legally from an Ares store, so it seems likely it's registered with them as well). I don't think any of them are going to need availability rolls except possibly the modification, but it is as always the GM's call.

One round trip train (or other transit) ticket from Cape May to New York City (I need cost and availability for this one)
Gel Rounds (caseless assault rifle) 200, 600 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) each, 4R
Additional Clip modification for her HVAR, 2400 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , 10R (she'll also need to find and pay for labor)
Zoe Executive Suite suit (long coat, 2 shirts, pants), 2350 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , 9

As I recall, Cherry has 8500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . I briefly considered having her get a Blackout as well, but I think she's the sort of "accidentally forget" the non-killing orders when she's in cyberspace. The suit is because the last party made her realize that there are situations between "cocktail dress" and "fatigues", and an armored suit fits most of those nicely.

Which part of NYC? Remember that Manhattan is funky extraterritorial corp turf. You would be very unlikely to be allowed to bring your HVAR anywhere near Manhattan.

That said....Avail on the train ticket? Always available. Cost? 10 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) one way, 15 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) round trip. It takes 3 hours one way to get to Penn Station in Manhattan.