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 Jul 4 2010, 07:14 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468  |
Have we heard anything about Aden since Dragons of the Sixth World?
On a related note, I realize that cold wars and such are the bread and butter of Shadowrun, but does anyone else ever itch for a conflict to be resolved? For example, we're resolving Aztlan/Amazonia. We resolved Japan/California. Left to resolve: Aztlan's northern border, whatever the hell is happening in the Middle East (Lofwyr bs Aden?) |
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Jul 4 2010, 08:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 359 Joined: 10-June 10 From: Renton--metas keep out Member No.: 18,684 |
Well, Aden is mentioned in Running Wild, but there isn't really an update. (S)he is still opposed to Lofwyr, and Islamic unification efforts.
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Jul 4 2010, 01:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 16,346 |
Yup, that's about it. The consolidation of half of North Africa under Egyptian rule certainly doesn't help Aden's anti-Islamic unification agenda, so you could stage some runs based on trying to split it back up. Plus, in DotSW, Aden is referred to as a male while the poster in Running Wild states that Aden is unequivocably female. Which I thought was strange.
Anyway, Aden is one of my favorite of the Great Dragons simply because there is so little written about him/her/it. Leaves lots of wiggle room for metaplot-sized games. My more than passing familiarity with the Middle East and a curiously unfounded dislike of Lofwyr and S-K exacerbate the situation. I actually wrote up a short setting-brief for Kirkuk, Iraq for the Hidden Grid that leaned heavily on the Lofwyr vs. Aden angle. If you're looking to do runs in the area, I'm sure I've got a copy of it on here somewhere. |
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Jul 4 2010, 02:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
one reason for the gender confusion is : islamic tradition, females are not respected... so if female better for dealings with metahumans in the area by pretending to be male...
either way, buying them a dress for xmas is right out there... especially something pink and white made of lace and chiffron that would make strawberry shortcake whimper and cringe... it's better to send something like that to dollmaker... |
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Jul 5 2010, 12:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 17,268 |
QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Jul 4 2010, 07:39 AM)  Yup, that's about it. The consolidation of half of North Africa under Egyptian rule certainly doesn't help Aden's anti-Islamic unification agenda, so you could stage some runs based on trying to split it back up. Plus, in DotSW, Aden is referred to as a male while the poster in Running Wild states that Aden is unequivocably female. Which I thought was strange. Anyway, Aden is one of my favorite of the Great Dragons simply because there is so little written about him/her/it. Leaves lots of wiggle room for metaplot-sized games. My more than passing familiarity with the Middle East and a curiously unfounded dislike of Lofwyr and S-K exacerbate the situation. I actually wrote up a short setting-brief for Kirkuk, Iraq for the Hidden Grid that leaned heavily on the Lofwyr vs. Aden angle. If you're looking to do runs in the area, I'm sure I've got a copy of it on here somewhere. Dude, you should totally add that to the thread a couple weeks back about compiling our own local writeups. |
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Jul 5 2010, 06:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 |
Well, thanks for the partially disappointing and partially awesome responses.
One thing about Aden I always wondered: if (s)he's so ardently anti-Arabia, why the fuck is (s)he not backing Israel more? |
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Jul 5 2010, 06:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 4-September 09 From: Poland Member No.: 17,594 |
QUOTE One thing about Aden I always wondered: if (s)he's so ardently anti-Arabia, why the fuck is (s)he not backing Israel more? Maybe Israeli don't want to deal with the dragon? |
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Jul 5 2010, 08:24 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,092 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Minchandre @ Jul 5 2010, 07:16 AM) One thing about Aden I always wondered: if (s)he's so ardently anti-Arabia, why the fuck is (s)he not backing Israel more? (S)he doesn't seem to be anti-Arabia per se, only opposed to an Arabian hegemony. Whatever the aim behind that is (probably that a lot a warring fiefdoms are easier to control), replacing the Califate as the major power player in the Middle East with Israel obviously doesn't help it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 5 2010, 12:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
A Caliphate would be great for Aden, if Aden was the Caliph.
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Jul 5 2010, 01:10 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 5 2010, 09:55 AM) A Caliphate would be great for Aden, if Aden was the Caliph. How would he claim he is a descendant of the Prophet? Or would he try to claim that the Prophet was a Drake and was his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-son? |
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Jul 5 2010, 02:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 17-August 09 Member No.: 17,514 |
You might think it is easier, or preferable to her, to influence the middle east when it is composed of several weak entities and not one strong one.
Perhaps sometime in medieval history the Khalifs funded a secret organization to hunt and destroy dragons armed with some bit of hidden lore or an artifact of some kind. |
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Jul 5 2010, 02:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,092 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 5 2010, 12:55 PM) A Caliphate would be great for Aden, if Aden was the guy secretly controlling every move of the Caliph. Fixed. |
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Jul 5 2010, 03:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 16,346 |
QUOTE (Megu @ Jul 4 2010, 05:15 PM) Dude, you should totally add that to the thread a couple weeks back about compiling our own local writeups. Link me, and I will. |
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Jul 5 2010, 05:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 5 2010, 02:24 AM) (S)he doesn't seem to be anti-Arabia per se, only opposed to an Arabian hegemony. Whatever the aim behind that is (probably that a lot a warring fiefdoms are easier to control), replacing the Califate as the major power player in the Middle East with Israel obviously doesn't help it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Aden seems to be in favor of chaos and disunity in the Middle East, thus supporting Armenians, Kurds, Lebanese, etc. I feel like the Israelis have a similar objective (disunited Arabs are advantageous for them as well). |
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Jul 5 2010, 11:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jul 5 2010, 01:10 PM) How would he claim he is a descendant of the Prophet? Or would he try to claim that the Prophet was a Drake and was his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-son? Something along the lines of "SEE TEHRAN? YOU'RE NEXT IF YOUR SCHOLARS DON'T MIND ME TO BE A RELATIVE!" |
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Jul 6 2010, 04:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 17,268 |
QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Jul 5 2010, 10:15 AM) Link me, and I will. http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...l=local+writeup Shit needs to be stickied or something, hard to find. |
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Jul 6 2010, 07:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 16,346 |
Sweet. I'm updating it with extra info, so it might be a couple of days before I get it up there. After that, since I'm feeling inspired, I'm going to do a write-up of Boston and its environs, too. Stay tuned.
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Jul 6 2010, 04:29 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 5 2010, 08:33 PM) Something along the lines of "SEE TEHRAN? YOU'RE NEXT IF YOUR SCHOLARS DON'T MIND ME TO BE A RELATIVE!" LOL! |
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Jul 6 2010, 05:25 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
QUOTE (Kumo @ Jul 4 2010, 11:23 PM) Maybe Israeli don't want to deal with the dragon? Or it might explain why the Mossad has a better than average track record as an Intelligence Agency if someone is leaking the resuklts of her/his divinations. Manipulating an intel agency for their own ends is definitely in the Official Unofficial Great Dragon Play Book |
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Jul 6 2010, 06:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 17,268 |
QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 5 2010, 06:33 PM) Something along the lines of "SEE TEHRAN? YOU'RE NEXT IF YOUR SCHOLARS DON'T MIND ME TO BE A RELATIVE!" This seems more like a player character's plan than a great dragon's plan. I do like it, though. |
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Jul 6 2010, 07:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 |
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Jul 6 2010, 11:25 AM) Or it might explain why the Mossad has a better than average track record as an Intelligence Agency if someone is leaking the resuklts of her/his divinations. Manipulating an intel agency for their own ends is definitely in the Official Unofficial Great Dragon Play Book An excellent point, though I have to say Aden never struck me as a sneaky type...but then, maybe that's exactly what (s)he wants us to think... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jul 6 2010, 09:40 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,092 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Minchandre @ Jul 5 2010, 05:52 PM) Aden seems to be in favor of chaos and disunity in the Middle East, thus supporting Armenians, Kurds, Lebanese, etc. I feel like the Israelis have a similar objective (disunited Arabs are advantageous for them as well). The aim of Israeli foreign policy is force projection in every last bedouin tent of the Middle East, independently of the rest of the world if need be, and without actually wanting to conquer the whole place. Yes, that is similar to Aden's aims, which is exactly why the two shouldn't get along. The position of "don't fuck with me, I can and will kill everybody who tries to off me" does not exactly tolerate equal peers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 6 2010, 10:13 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
I think that for Aden it wouldn't do to openly associate with Israel - that might mess up all of Aden's other alliances.
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Jul 7 2010, 04:22 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
The Ayatollah had declared a jihad against all Awakened. Aden replied.
When you're picking a fight, make sure you know who you're picking a fight with! |
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Jul 7 2010, 06:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 7 2010, 04:22 AM) The Ayatollah had declared a jihad against all Awakened. Aden replied. When you're picking a fight, make sure you know who you're picking a fight with! Or have a flight of attack helicopters on hand. Debates are always messy when one party is a few hundred tonnes of scale, muscle, magic and temper and the other is a nation. |
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