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Draco18s
post Jul 14 2010, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 14 2010, 01:12 PM) *
What about it?


Its a natural* ability yet training in it doesn't get you as good as you could be with any common fire arm because you can specialize with the Ares Predator over all other pistols.

*Or supernatural, if we consider it being (semi)magical.
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post Jul 14 2010, 07:09 PM
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Oh. Is that a problem?
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post Jul 14 2010, 07:31 PM
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Is it a problem that a drake has fewer dice to an innate ability than he does using a gun?

Yes, yes it is.
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post Jul 14 2010, 07:49 PM
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Only if he invests equally in both skills. It's not like they *always* do. Besides, *tons* of critters and people have fewer dice in 'innate' abilities than 'learned' ones, *and* you're not born knowing how to spit fire, either. It's just as learned.

*shrug*. Maybe flaming snot is harder to point-and-click guns. If it's ruining your entire game, houserule it.
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 14 2010, 04:35 PM) *
Well, it could mean N/A as in 'because this covers so many different things, we can't provide any.'

I could see plenty of argument for a spec like parry in particular. Or maybe even something as simple as offensive/defensive spec, one applies only on attacks, and the other only on defense. Like Eimi said, it really isn't any different that the pistol gunbunny taking an SA spec for pistols since 90% of production pistols are SA, and the gunbunny is only going to be forced to use a non SA pistol under very extreme circumstances.

Personally I think Exotic weapons should get more bonuses because they represent such a limited field, as opposed to losing bonuses such as specialization. I mean someone who takes automatics is competent with all assault rifles and such ever made, but taking an exotic weapon means your proficient with one particular weapon, of which there are likely only a few hundred likely to be in use. Basically you're crippling your versatility in order to use a weird weapon, which in most cases are very weak compared to anything of similar size and cost. And of course if no specs are allowed, you're also crippling your combat ability as well by giving up 2 dice on offense, 2 dice on defense, and 4 dice on full defense (Or just 2 on offense for ranged weapons).

I'm tempted to ingore 90% of them blades in odd place uses blades ect. And the few out there wacky enought to no mesh with other treat them as knowledge skills cost wise.
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Jul 14 2010, 12:25 PM) *
Out yer arse.


Even the reptiles that absorb oxygen through what amounts to anal gills don't actually inhale/exhale that way.
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jul 14 2010, 01:56 PM) *
Even the reptiles that absorb oxygen through what amounts to anal gills don't actually inhale/exhale that way.


Though, now I'm wondering if it's possible to reroute the path of a drake's fire to the, ah, back door, via surgery.
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:07 PM
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Does it even come out of their mouth in the first place? It's just the Elemental Attack power, right? Could be anything.
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:24 PM
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Well, there's the precedent of the little swamp dragon in Terry Pratchets: GUARDS! GUARDS!
Won't be long now, untill we have jet-engine-powered drakes . .
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post Jul 14 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 14 2010, 05:24 PM) *
Well, there's the precedent of the little swamp dragon in Terry Pratchets: GUARDS! GUARDS!
Won't be long now, untill we have jet-engine-powered drakes . .


That book was awesome. Though I may be slightly biased as it was my first introduction to Terry Pratchett (two Ts on the end, there).
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post Jul 14 2010, 10:09 PM
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Most of his Stuff is awesome, and i still would prefer it if shadowrun had been a mix between gibson and pratchett <.<
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post Jul 14 2010, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 14 2010, 06:09 PM) *
Most of his Stuff is awesome, and i still would prefer it if shadowrun had been a mix between gibson and pratchett <.<


I don't think anyone would have been able to make sense of the world if Pratchett had been involved. We'd have trolls made out of rock (with diamonds for teeth) and anthropomorphic personifications of Death (as well as other things).

No, all ShadowRun needs to be is a mix of Gibson and generic fantasy. Figure out how you want to define "dragon" and then drop it into a modern setting. How does it "get by"? Why, it invests in large corporations and eats dissenters ("I own the company and the company owns you. You're going to be served with a side of mashed potatoes and you're going to enjoy it.")

Magic is mysterious and powerful, and generally freaks people out ("Geek the mage, geek the mage!") but has its price ("Ooohh...I don't feel so well...Is that blood? At least I'm safe...")
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post Jul 15 2010, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 14 2010, 06:21 PM) *
anthropomorphic personifications of Death


I've seen more than a couple character builds who probably thought of themselves as much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

THEN AGAIN, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE NEARLY AS HUMOROUSLY STYLISH ABOUT IT.
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