HMHVV and Sentient Critters, "I ATE WHAT?" Options

[Stahlseele]

How does it work?
I mean, a Pixy is at best, only a light snack to a ghoul . . Well, untill it vanishes at least . .
While a Centaur would last a family of ghouls for a week or so O.o
And Naga are somewhere in between i guess . .
Where are the limits?
What can ghouls eat to sustain their dietary requirements?
Obviously, Free spirits and AI's don't matter as they don't have much matter to begin with . .
And on the same line of thought: Infected Pixie/Naga/Centaur?
What happens?
What CAN infect them?

[TBRMInsanity]

Refresh my memory (I may be thinking of pre SR4) but isn't the dietary requirement metahuman flesh, this would exclude pixies, centaurs, nagas, free spirits, dragons, etc. The ghoul is still best served attacking trolls if they want a large mean and dwarves if they want a small one.

[Traul]

One thing I always wandered: can ghouls feed on other ghouls? They are still metahuman, but it feels wrong somehow.

[suoq]

It's a ghoul eat ghoul world.

[DeathStrobe]

I could have sworn I saw an infected Sasquatch character/critter but I can't seem to find it now, so maybe I'm full of it.

Anyway, the HMHVV doesn't effect everyone equally. You can technically be infected and it do nothing to you. Of course, you are infected so you can pass the virus to someone else who can be end up turning in to a ghoul or vampire or whatever.

So for the critters that don't have a listed out come, I'd say they can't turn in to one of the infected.

[sabs]

I thought you had to be human to turn into a vampire?

[suoq]

I thought you had to be human to turn into a vampire?

http://wiki.dumpshock.com/index.php/HMHVV
"In one instances, an infected elf survived and expressed as a Nosferatu. This was proven dependent on one particular and extremely-rare blood type found only in particular human and elf subtypes." There's also some stuff about a troll variant in the paragraph above that line.
Don't have a clue as to the original source material. The page says it's Running Wild, but I haven't picked it up yet.

[Nifft]

It's a ghoul eat ghoul world.

100% approval.

[Daddy's Litt...]

A f'ing vampiric Pommeranian?

[Jaid]

http://wiki.dumpshock.com/index.php/HMHVV
"In one instances, an infected elf survived and expressed as a Nosferatu. This was proven dependent on one particular and extremely-rare blood type found only in particular human and elf subtypes." There's also some stuff about a troll variant in the paragraph above that line.
Don't have a clue as to the original source material. The page says it's Running Wild, but I haven't picked it up yet.

i think the original original source was one of the german novels. i seem to recall some discussion about it on dumpshock a while back.

[Mr. Mage]

And on the same line of thought: Infected Pixie/Naga/Centaur?
What happens?
What CAN infect them?

Check this out. Very nice take on infected pixies at least.

[Traul]

If an Infected can feed on other Infected, what prevents a Dzo No Qua to cut little bits of himself for lunch and wait for them to regenerate?

[Sesix]

If an Infected can feed on other Infected, what prevents a Dzo No Qua to cut little bits of himself for lunch and wait for them to regenerate?

You know where your body has been, would you wana eat it?

[suoq]

If an Infected can feed on other Infected, what prevents a Dzoo-noo-qua to cut little bits of himself for lunch and wait for them to regenerate?

He knows where he's been.

From a more technical standpoint, it could well be that the essence he gets from eating his finger isn't enough to grow back that finger, i.e. they could put off starvation but it would be a losing battle.

Edit: Dang, beaten while looking up the correct spelling!

[Stahlseele]

Check this out. Very nice take on infected pixies at least.

Yah, i've read that thread with much interest, but i don't remember seeing anything official alluding to this topic ._.
Ah well, it's a good read anyway and has some very nice ideas and stuff ^^

[Blastula]

It all tastes like chicken anyways.

[CanRay]

It all tastes like chicken anyways.

How would a Ghoul or 'Runners know? Like they've ever had real chicken!

[TBRMInsanity]

If an Infected can feed on other Infected, what prevents a Dzo No Qua to cut little bits of himself for lunch and wait for them to regenerate?

Again correct me if I'm wrong but the dietary requirement was to stop the Essence loss, so eating yourself wouldn't stop that. Eating another Dzo No Qua would work though. Gives new meaning to 69...

Puke!

[Blastula]

Again correct me if I'm wrong but the dietary requirement was to stop the Essence loss, so eating yourself wouldn't stop that. Eating another Dzo No Qua would work though. Gives new meaning to 69...

Puke!

Bow-chicka-bowow?

[Traul]

No, Dietary requirement and Essence Loss are two different things. All Infected have Dietary Requirement, only a few have Essence Loss. The Essence Drain power can get the lost Essence back, but you can only drain from a live and awake victim, and you don't have to eat her for the drain to work (althouh if she dies in the process, better not waste the meat...) Even with 2 Dzoo Noo Qua, it would only solve the dietary problem, not the Essence Loss.

[Simon Kerimov]

I think I found a way to feed Ghouls on the cheap.

: Type-O : Cloned skin : 300nY : 4 hours growth time : human skin weights between 8-10 lbs :

Ghoul Body Weight (bw): 200 kilos
Dietary Restrictions: 5% of bw/month
Ghoul diet weight: 200 kilos * .05 = 10 kilos/month
Human skin weight in kilos: ~4 kilos/skin
Clones skin cost: 300 nY/skin

5% of 200 kilos is 20 kilos.
(20 kilos/month) / (4 kilos/skin) = 5 skins/month
(5 skins/month)*(300 nY/skin)=(1,500 nY/month)

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[Draco18s]

Reminds me of a character one person I knew had. He had an honest to God "good-aligned" ghoul character. He even had the Dependents flaw, his dependents being the people he unintentionally ghoul'ed (he kept them locked in a basement and fed them).

[Martin_DeVries_I...]

I think I found a way to feed Ghouls on the cheap.

: Type-O : Cloned skin : 300nY : 4 hours growth time : human skin weights between 8-10 lbs :

Ghoul Body Weight (bw): 200 kilos
Dietary Restrictions: 5% of bw/month
Ghoul diet weight: 200 kilos * .05 = 10 kilos/month
Human skin weight in kilos: ~4 kilos/skin
Clones skin cost: 300 nY/skin

You ever go to a Kentucky Fried Chicken and ask them for a bucket full of just the skins? Has the idea of eating 8 pounds of chicken skin ever sounded appetizing? Puke. And yes, I do honestly believe that (the majority of) ghouls will be squicked out at the idea of just eating cloned skin. Even cannibals have standards.

Besides which the nutritive value of skin, if it has any at all, has got to be far below that of real meat.

[CanRay]

And yes, I do honestly believe that (the majority of) ghouls will be squicked out at the idea of just eating cloned skin. Even cannibals have standards.

"I want a leg." "Thigh!" "Breast!" "Arm!"

[Badmoodguy88]

Any way the cloned meat thing would not work as such. It is to easy an answer. It is the aura that matters. You could clone a whole human, let him think, and eat him. Or cut bits of someone and then replace those bits with cloned body parts. That would end up being even more evil than eating people that have died of natural causes, but I could imagine a very unusual fetishist volunteering to feed the ghoul. Amputate, clone, reattach. Very twisted but someone would do it.