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Machiavelli
post Aug 26 2010, 11:44 AM
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I already quoted my opinion that most of the spirit pacts are close to useless, but what would YOU request as a compensation for a dream pact you agree with a spirit. According to the description, it is incredibly useful for a spirit itself, but what would be an adequade payment for the character?
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:52 AM
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A permenant spirit power.

Earthquake or storm, using willpower instead of magic, might be nice.
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:53 AM
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one service per night?
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (Makki @ Aug 26 2010, 01:53 PM) *
one service per night?

Only if it's dikoted.
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Aug 26 2010, 05:18 AM) *
Only if it's dikoted.

and ribbed for your pleasure.
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:25 PM
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Is "hidden life" something that needs an extra pact? I don´t have the book available.
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Aug 26 2010, 01:21 PM) *
and ribbed for your pleasure.

We are talking about "spirit pact", not "hooker job"..^^
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:51 PM
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Well your body is well protected wile you sleep.

But...
If someone knocks you out with sleeping gas would it cause the spirit to take over your body?
Aslo what happens if a spirit has multiples of this pact?
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Aug 26 2010, 05:26 AM) *
We are talking about "spirit pact", not "hooker job"..^^

You're prostituting your body out.... not really sure there is a difference.
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:54 PM
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This is relevant to my interests.

Has anybody houseruled any spirit pacts? I'm looking to magic up my mundane some, but I don't think I would make any of the pacts in the book. I'd probably do a dream pact, but the sleep regulator means that's only four hours every two days.
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post Aug 26 2010, 01:01 PM
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Name the spirit Tyler Durden and just roll with that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 26 2010, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Aug 26 2010, 12:52 PM) *
You're prostituting your body out.... not really sure there is a difference.

He could do a LOT of money....he could also get a job at a liquor store. 2 incomes....great.^^
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 26 2010, 09:01 AM) *
Name the spirit Tyler Durden and just roll with that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



"And the first rule..."
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post Aug 27 2010, 05:14 AM
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QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 26 2010, 07:51 AM) *
Well your body is well protected wile you sleep.

But...
If someone knocks you out with sleeping gas would it cause the spirit to take over your body?
Aslo what happens if a spirit has multiples of this pact?

1) I don't know if "knocked out" equals "asleep," although it would make extremely cool imagery for an NPC fight though.
2) Nothing bad would happen if a spirit had multiples, as long as all the recipients were in different time zones.
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post Aug 27 2010, 06:26 AM
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Question No. 1 opens up a completely new discussion. Now we should find a final solution for the modifiers that a spirit really has if the body it possesses had been hurt or is unconscious.
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post Aug 27 2010, 08:01 AM
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The spirit needs to spend some time at the gym so I don't have to.
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 27 2010, 07:14 AM) *
1) I don't know if "knocked out" equals "asleep," although it would make extremely cool imagery for an NPC fight though.

If I'm not mistaken something along those lines happens in Ghost Cartels, one of the NPCsgoes down in a fight only to stand up buffed out to the max by a powerful spirit and whipe the opposition.
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:10 AM
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Yes, but NPCs do not always use the same rules they do. The writers have been known to take artistic license not to mention the fact how do we know they just weren't a vessel prepared in advance by a Houngan?
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:23 AM
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People probably take dream the dream pact because why not. For the cost of one spirit pact you can have all the pacts the spirit has to give and is willing to give. Dream pact is probably something that helps the spirit more but that could be part of the original negotiations.

Also as an interesting loop hole this would give a materialization spirit the opportunity to moonlight as a possession spirit some of the time. The best of both worlds. Plus it does not come with huge drawbacks like a friendship pact does.
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post Aug 28 2010, 09:53 AM
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Hah, Saturday morning and brain is working again.^^ Regarding "knocked out and stands up again, buffed to max by a powerful spirit" i have to say that THIS wouldn´t be a problem. This is a common possession procedure that is described in the digital grimoire, but does "knocked down" qualify as "asleep"?
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