 Jugger vs. urban brawl, which came first |
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 Sep 1 2010, 12:06 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 332 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Nashville, Tn Member No.: 7,761  |
so watching an old 80's movie "blood of heroes" and in it they play a game called jugger, which to all intents looks like urban brawl to me.
anyone else ever noticed this... assuming someone else has seen this movie. lol |
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Sep 1 2010, 12:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
Blood of Heroes is a 1989 Austrailian film, and Shadowrun is a 1989 US game, so the odds of either influencing the other are very low.
As for Urban Brawl style films see Urban Brawl Movies. |
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Sep 1 2010, 12:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Queensland Member No.: 3,180 |
I know that movie as "Salute of the Jugger" but probably because it seemed a tad post apocalyptic I never really equated it with urban brawl and SR. I see from your 2nd link it's an emerging sport. ha
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Sep 1 2010, 12:25 AM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
Well bar the use of firearms and such maybe.
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Sep 1 2010, 02:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 332 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Nashville, Tn Member No.: 7,761 |
the team make up and ball handling rules are what seem to overlap to me.
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Sep 1 2010, 02:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,237 |
As an Australian, I know we are behind in almost everything ,from technology, movies, trends ect. I can only imagine how far behind we were in 89', so I think its very likely that its a coincidence. I love the movie though, some popular actors starred in the film and was near the start to their professional careers.
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Sep 1 2010, 12:38 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
Note that from 1968-1975, Piers Anthony wrote a series of novels later known as "Battle Circle". Jugger is, in many ways, Battle Circle brought to film.*
Urban Brawl, on the other hand, seems to be a descendant of "The 10th Victim", based off of Robert Sheckley's "Seventh Victim". Both are probably descendants of "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell. --------- *I'm not sure there's a connection as it would require Anthony's books to get to Australia and I know I have a devil of a time getting Chopper Reed books in America. (All the ones I have, someone picked up for me in Australia.) I've also heard Piers Anythony's later works (Xanth) never became popular in Europe and if they didn't, I don't know how well Battle Circle would have fared. For all I know, Jugger may simply be an Australian take on the 10th Victim. |
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Sep 1 2010, 12:42 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
"He had never slept in a better bed." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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Sep 1 2010, 01:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
Edit to the above: Blood Bowl came out in 1987. Claiming Blood Bowl as an Urban Brawl ancestor seems very reasonable.
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