Straight Razor
Sep 1 2010, 12:06 AM
so watching an old 80's movie
"blood of heroes" and in it they play a game called
jugger, which to all intents looks like
urban brawl to me.
anyone else ever noticed this... assuming someone else has seen this movie. lol
MJBurrage
Sep 1 2010, 12:15 AM
Blood of Heroes is a 1989 Austrailian film, and
Shadowrun is a 1989 US game, so the odds of either influencing the other are very low.
As for Urban Brawl style films see
Urban Brawl Movies.
Link
Sep 1 2010, 12:20 AM
I know that movie as "Salute of the Jugger" but probably because it seemed a tad post apocalyptic I never really equated it with urban brawl and SR. I see from your 2nd link it's an emerging sport. ha
Dumori
Sep 1 2010, 12:25 AM
Well bar the use of firearms and such maybe.
Straight Razor
Sep 1 2010, 02:00 AM
the team make up and ball handling rules are what seem to overlap to me.
nemafow
Sep 1 2010, 02:48 AM
As an Australian, I know we are behind in almost everything ,from technology, movies, trends ect. I can only imagine how far behind we were in 89', so I think its very likely that its a coincidence. I love the movie though, some popular actors starred in the film and was near the start to their professional careers.
suoq
Sep 1 2010, 12:38 PM
Note that from 1968-1975, Piers Anthony wrote a series of novels later known as "Battle Circle". Jugger is, in many ways, Battle Circle brought to film.*
Urban Brawl, on the other hand, seems to be a descendant of "The 10th Victim", based off of Robert Sheckley's "Seventh Victim".
Both are probably descendants of "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell.
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*I'm not sure there's a connection as it would require Anthony's books to get to Australia and I know I have a devil of a time getting Chopper Reed books in America. (All the ones I have, someone picked up for me in Australia.) I've also heard Piers Anythony's later works (Xanth) never became popular in Europe and if they didn't, I don't know how well Battle Circle would have fared. For all I know, Jugger may simply be an Australian take on the 10th Victim.
CanRay
Sep 1 2010, 12:42 PM
"He had never slept in a better bed."
suoq
Sep 1 2010, 01:41 PM
Edit to the above: Blood Bowl came out in 1987. Claiming Blood Bowl as an Urban Brawl ancestor seems very reasonable.
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