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> Highest Possible Modified Body, Whats the toughest battle monster u got?
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post Mar 6 2004, 08:01 PM
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I was bored and making some chars the other day. I made an Orc with a modified body of 13 (I think). Just got me curious as to how much of a tank could you build? Post your scariest battle monters here, and discuss how you could build the toughest character to walk the mean streets.
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post Mar 6 2004, 08:05 PM
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I believe I've got a friend who has managed Trolls at about 21 dice for damage resistance, 18 or so actual Body.

Starting characters, or just how high can it go period?

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post Mar 6 2004, 08:42 PM
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just .
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post Mar 6 2004, 09:43 PM
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There's no maximum given infinite karma and luck, because magic can go on forever.

But yeah, I made a character for a new player in my last campaign with 21 damage resistance dice. I could've done more but he really wanted certain other things like rhino horns and kid stealth legs.
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post Mar 6 2004, 09:55 PM
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basically starting chars is what i was thinking.
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post Mar 6 2004, 10:20 PM
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I'm creating a absolutely dangerous cyberzombie. Thank God for NSRCG! :D
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post Mar 6 2004, 10:31 PM
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Which has apparently forgotten to let you know that cyberzombies aren't legal starting characters, even if their gear is all under 8 avail...

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post Mar 6 2004, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Which has apparently forgotten to let you know that cyberzombies aren't legal starting characters, even if their gear is all under 8 avail...

You got a book quote to back that up? ;)
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post Mar 6 2004, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Man and Machine p54)
For those gamemasters who choose to incorporate cybermancy, note that characters cannot start the game with an Essence rating of 0 or less.


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post Mar 6 2004, 11:58 PM
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Edit: Damn, Kage beat me to it.
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post Mar 7 2004, 12:02 AM
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Fear my speed. *Flexes*

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post Mar 7 2004, 01:02 AM
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A Resources, B Magic (Adept), C Race (Troll), D Attributes, E Skills.

6 base Attribute points in Body
+5 for Troll
+1 natural dermal armor
+1 Bonus Attribute (Body)
+0 Exceptional Attribute (Body) (doesn't increase rating, but provides a higher cap for this next one)
+5 Improved Physical Attribute (Body) (5 Power Points, with 5 geasa to offset Magic loss from...)
+2 alpha Titanium Bone Lacing (1.8 Essence)
+3 alpha Dermal Plating 3 (1.2 Essence)
+4 alpha Dermal Sheathing 3 (1.68 Essence) (does it say anywhere that you can't stack these?)
+1 Toughness
28 Body for damage resistance purposes!

Using betaware, you can squeeze in a pair of cyberlegs, too, bringing it up to 30.

edit: Forgot Toughness. How could I forget Toughness?

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post Mar 7 2004, 01:26 AM
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Wow, John, you have some |33t munchkin skills

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post Mar 7 2004, 01:33 AM
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He also forgot calcitonin and to make the adept magician's way, so he could take crab totem, and Dermal Plating and Sheathing do not stack. Im sure theres more too but once you pass 20 who cares, armor is what gives you the edge not raw body.
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post Mar 7 2004, 01:36 AM
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Doesn't matter how much armor you have if that naval shell hits and you don't have the body to stage it down a box at a time.

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post Mar 7 2004, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE (The White Dwarf)
He also forgot calcitonin

That a SURGE thing? I don't have any of the SURGE-related supplements.

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and to make the adept magician's way, so he could take crab totem,

The cyber costs more than 400kĄ, so you can't go Priority A for Magic. Maybe with the point system.

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and Dermal Plating and Sheathing do not stack.

Do you have a page reference for this? I looked for a rule against it and couldn't find one.
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post Mar 7 2004, 03:33 AM
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Wow.... 10 years ago I made a character with the highest Body I could muster, and all I got to was 18. That character sucks by these standards! :) SOTA takes everyone down, I guess.

--K

Edit: Just out of curiosity, what's the highest Intelligence the rules can muster? That's a little harder, since there is less cyber out there to help it, and no race bonuses.
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post Mar 7 2004, 03:36 AM
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10 at chargen with an Otaku, I believe. That gives an overall ceiling of 15.

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post Mar 7 2004, 03:42 AM
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Currently playing a human Physad with a body of 10.
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post Mar 7 2004, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (John Campbell)
QUOTE (The White Dwarf)
He also forgot calcitonin

That a SURGE thing? I don't have any of the SURGE-related supplements.

No, SOTA 2063. Geneware.
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post Mar 7 2004, 04:38 AM
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Ah, I found calcitonin. Genetech, from SOTA:2063. It's not actually useful... genetech is considered bioware, which is considered "natural", so it can't exceed the Attribute Max. This troll's "natural" Body is already pegged at 18 by his adept powers (also considered "natural"). If it weren't, I'd've given him the sixth point of Improved Physical Attribute.

However... phenotypic alteration, also from the genetech section of SOTA:2063, can raise the Racial Modified Limit to 13 and Attribute Max to 20. Also, as I read the new Bio Index rules, as long as he keeps his actual Essence above 1, he won't burn out, and can now geas away the virtual loss from bioware. That means we can get the phenotypic alteration, add another geas to offset the effects, then get that calcitonin and spend the sixth Power Point on more Improved Attribute...

So....
A Resources, B Magic (Adept), C Race (Troll), D Attributes, E Skills.

6 base Attribute points in Body
+5 for Troll
+1 natural dermal armor
+1 Bonus Attribute (Body)
+0 Exceptional Attribute (Body) (RML/AM 12/18)
+0 Phenotypic Alteration (0.5 BI) (raise Body limits) (RML/AM 13/20)
+1 Calcitonin (0.4 BI)
+6 Improved Physical Attribute (Body) (6 Power Points, with 6 geasa to offset Magic loss)
+2 alpha Titanium Bone Lacing (1.8 Essence)
+3 alpha Dermal Plating 3 (1.2 Essence)
+4 alpha Dermal Sheathing 3 (1.68 Essence)
+1 Toughness
... for an effective 30 Body for damage resistance purposes.
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post Mar 7 2004, 04:46 AM
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How much passenger space can you fit in, though?

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post Mar 7 2004, 04:59 AM
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QUOTE (John Campbell @ Mar 7 2004, 12:38 PM)
Ah, I found calcitonin. Genetech, from SOTA:2063. It's not actually useful... genetech is considered bioware, which is considered "natural", so it can't exceed the Attribute Max. This troll's "natural" Body is already pegged at 18 by his adept powers (also considered "natural"). If it weren't, I'd've given him the sixth point of Improved Physical Attribute.

However... phenotypic alteration, also from the genetech section of SOTA:2063, can raise the Racial Modified Limit to 13 and Attribute Max to 20. Also, as I read the new Bio Index rules, as long as he keeps his actual Essence above 1, he won't burn out, and can now geas away the virtual loss from bioware. That means we can get the phenotypic alteration, add another geas to offset the effects, then get that calcitonin and spend the sixth Power Point on more Improved Attribute...

So....
A Resources, B Magic (Adept), C Race (Troll), D Attributes, E Skills.

6 base Attribute points in Body
+5 for Troll
+1 natural dermal armor
+1 Bonus Attribute (Body)
+0 Exceptional Attribute (Body) (RML/AM 12/18)
+0 Phenotypic Alteration (0.5 BI) (raise Body limits) (RML/AM 13/20)
+1 Calcitonin (0.4 BI)
+6 Improved Physical Attribute (Body) (6 Power Points, with 6 geasa to offset Magic loss)
+2 alpha Titanium Bone Lacing (1.8 Essence)
+3 alpha Dermal Plating 3 (1.2 Essence)
+4 alpha Dermal Sheathing 3 (1.68 Essence)
+1 Toughness
... for an effective 30 Body for damage resistance purposes.

You forgot something, bub. Use 120 BP. Add SURGE: Dermal Deposits.

*sigh* Do I have to teach you how to munch too? Really, munchkins these days... weak they are. :D
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post Mar 7 2004, 05:52 AM
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SURGE is for wannabe furries. And, as I already mentioned, I don't have the books, anyway.
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post Mar 7 2004, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (John Campbell)
SURGE is for wannabe furries.

And AVSs are for munchkins, and Predators are for people too lazy to be original, and FFBA is for twinks, and, and, and...

:please:

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