I was bored and making some chars the other day. I made an Orc with a modified body of 13 (I think). Just got me curious as to how much of a tank could you build? Post your scariest battle monters here, and discuss how you could build the toughest character to walk the mean streets.

I believe I've got a friend who has managed Trolls at about 21 dice for damage resistance, 18 or so actual Body.

Starting characters, or just how high can it go period?

~J

just .

There's no maximum given infinite karma and luck, because magic can go on forever.

But yeah, I made a character for a new player in my last campaign with 21 damage resistance dice. I could've done more but he really wanted certain other things like rhino horns and kid stealth legs.

basically starting chars is what i was thinking.

I'm creating a absolutely dangerous cyberzombie. Thank God for NSRCG!

Which has apparently forgotten to let you know that cyberzombies aren't legal starting characters, even if their gear is all under 8 avail...

~J

Edit: Damn, Kage beat me to it.

Fear my speed. *Flexes*



~J

A Resources, B Magic (Adept), C Race (Troll), D Attributes, E Skills.

6 base Attribute points in Body
+5 for Troll
+1 natural dermal armor
+1 Bonus Attribute (Body)
+0 Exceptional Attribute (Body) (doesn't increase rating, but provides a higher cap for this next one)
+5 Improved Physical Attribute (Body) (5 Power Points, with 5 geasa to offset Magic loss from...)
+2 alpha Titanium Bone Lacing (1.8 Essence)
+3 alpha Dermal Plating 3 (1.2 Essence)
+4 alpha Dermal Sheathing 3 (1.68 Essence) (does it say anywhere that you can't stack these?)
+1 Toughness
28 Body for damage resistance purposes!

Using betaware, you can squeeze in a pair of cyberlegs, too, bringing it up to 30.

edit: Forgot Toughness. How could I forget Toughness?

Wow, John, you have some |33t munchkin skills

He also forgot calcitonin and to make the adept magician's way, so he could take crab totem, and Dermal Plating and Sheathing do not stack. Im sure theres more too but once you pass 20 who cares, armor is what gives you the edge not raw body.

Doesn't matter how much armor you have if that naval shell hits and you don't have the body to stage it down a box at a time.

~J

Wow.... 10 years ago I made a character with the highest Body I could muster, and all I got to was 18. That character sucks by these standards! SOTA takes everyone down, I guess.

--K

Edit: Just out of curiosity, what's the highest Intelligence the rules can muster? That's a little harder, since there is less cyber out there to help it, and no race bonuses.

10 at chargen with an Otaku, I believe. That gives an overall ceiling of 15.

~J

Currently playing a human Physad with a body of 10.

Ah, I found calcitonin. Genetech, from SOTA:2063. It's not actually useful... genetech is considered bioware, which is considered "natural", so it can't exceed the Attribute Max. This troll's "natural" Body is already pegged at 18 by his adept powers (also considered "natural"). If it weren't, I'd've given him the sixth point of Improved Physical Attribute.

However... phenotypic alteration, also from the genetech section of SOTA:2063, can raise the Racial Modified Limit to 13 and Attribute Max to 20. Also, as I read the new Bio Index rules, as long as he keeps his actual Essence above 1, he won't burn out, and can now geas away the virtual loss from bioware. That means we can get the phenotypic alteration, add another geas to offset the effects, then get that calcitonin and spend the sixth Power Point on more Improved Attribute...

So....
A Resources, B Magic (Adept), C Race (Troll), D Attributes, E Skills.

6 base Attribute points in Body
+5 for Troll
+1 natural dermal armor
+1 Bonus Attribute (Body)
+0 Exceptional Attribute (Body) (RML/AM 12/18)
+0 Phenotypic Alteration (0.5 BI) (raise Body limits) (RML/AM 13/20)
+1 Calcitonin (0.4 BI)
+6 Improved Physical Attribute (Body) (6 Power Points, with 6 geasa to offset Magic loss)
+2 alpha Titanium Bone Lacing (1.8 Essence)
+3 alpha Dermal Plating 3 (1.2 Essence)
+4 alpha Dermal Sheathing 3 (1.68 Essence)
+1 Toughness
... for an effective 30 Body for damage resistance purposes.

How much passenger space can you fit in, though?

~J

SURGE is for wannabe furries. And, as I already mentioned, I don't have the books, anyway.

Admittedly, it's for second ed, but pg 48 of Cybertechnology states "A character cannot gain the benefits of both dermal plating and dermal sheathing. Sheathing is a superior form of plating and can only be fitted if pre-existing plating over the same area is removed."

I can't find any 3rd edition references to a similar rule. However, pg 28 of M&M describes sheathing as "Dermal sheathing combines the latest advances in dermal plating technology with a semi-synthetic skin sheath." That description is what makes me, as a GM, disallow stacking of the two systems.

Well, theres diffferent ways to do things.
base attribute 6
Dwarf +1, ork +3, or Troll +6.
edges: bonus/exceptional attribute, toughness(+1) [+7 edges]
surge: dermal deposits (+1)
Dermal sheath 3 + titanium bone lacing is +6 bod
may 2 cyberlegs w/out bonus loss; +2 more
Superthyroid galnd (+1, counts as natural),

so a troll w/ surge, edges, cyber and bio could have a 24.
with experience, that raises to a 29.
for a human w/out edges or surge, those numbers are 15 and 17.

bio index 1.4, essence is 5.08 alpha. cost is 740,000 (with no upgrades for the legs).

you could get an extra +1 from a cybertorso, but then you would need at least beta-ware or else be a cyberzombie.

with build points: 30 resources, 10 race, 7 edges, 7 surge; 54 plus attributes and skills.

So, you could have an experienced troll changeling sporting betaware with 30 dice to soak with, and an actual body of 18.

Does anybody else find it strange that Metahumans with the right munching out can routinely throw more dice to survive an attack than great dragons or any vehicle short of a battleship?

"Virtual magic" is till there (emphasis mine):

EDIT: Accidentally replied to wrong post.

He's got an effective magic rating of 0, but since it's only the virtual reduction that brings him below 1, then he can still initiate and gain magic rating. Now if his essence was below 1, it wouldn't matter, but it isn't.

Nothing in the FAQ says that they've removed the virtual magic stuff, and besides bioware is still supposed to be more magic friendly. This is however an optional rule.

Lets go back to the main rules.
1.32 essence = 1 magic
0.9 bio index = 0 magic

But the last point lost is a virtual loss and therefor the person is still magically active, he just hasn't got the mojo. Initiate a couple of times and voila, magic rating 6 again.

Guys, we're not talking about the faq. The errata has replaced the section in M&M that says that bioware doesn't cause permanent irreparable magic loss.

The errata is pretty clear that it does work like other forms of magic loss.

Oh... yeah... in that case ignore my latest posts.