Awesome use of the Petrify spell..., It really is Options

[jaellot]

So last night in the session the PC's needed to move a badly injured NPC. They didn't have a stretcher or even pieces of lumber handy, and suddenly one of the players says "I could Petrify him."

I thought this was awesome. It kept him immobile, and tt kept him from taking any miscellaneous injury from being hoisted through a hole in the floor. I could see other applications of this, say on a Doc Wagon. Especially if the patient is being unruly, too.

[Xahn Borealis]

What did the NPC think of it?

[pbangarth]

He was .... wait for it .... afraid!

[CanRay]

"Oh Ghost, I can't move! That magician did something to me! Is he going to steal my soul? Magicians do that, I heard about it on Talk Radio! I don't want to lose my soul! WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH ME?"

[jaellot]

Well, the NPC was out, having been Stabilized. His buddy, on the other hand, almost opened fire. Considering that the PC's took out the goon who did the damage, and also kept the NPC from bleeding out, it seemed reasonable that he that while he would be shocked by this, he wouldn't react beyond the initial "WTF?!".

[CanRay]

"Oh Ghost! That magician did something to my Chummer! Is he going to steal his soul? Magicians do that, I heard about it on Talk Radio! I don't want him to lose his soul! WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH HIM?"

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[KarmaInferno]

I wonder...

If you hit someone with Turn to Goo, can you smuggle him into places inside a plastic tank?

Then pour him out and stop sustaining the spell?




-k

[Neraph]

He'd reform in a pile of bodyparts, no longer alive.

I've had the idea of Turn To Gooing someone, placing a live grenade in his chest, and releasing the spell.

[CanRay]

I remember reading somewhere that a group used the spell, and then pulled out a NPC's Datajack.

But, back to making people into statues. How do you think it happened to The Alabaster Maiden?

[Traul]

Shouldn't the body become much heavier once petrified? Transportation might not be as easy as it sounds.

[Neraph]

The target becomes Calcium Carbonate. Isn't that easier to dissolve in certain liquids, and said liquids are more readily accessable?

[Yerameyahu]

I don't see why a Turned to Goo person would reform as dead parts, Neraph. Mr. RAW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Depending on what 'glue-like' means, there's no reason he couldn't be poured. He can't be divided into separate pieces, because, "any damage suffered by the gooey form affects the target normally."

Easier to dissolve than a human? Almost anything is. More readily accessible than what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Irion]

@Neraph

The target becomes Calcium Carbonate. Isn't that easier to dissolve in certain liquids, and said liquids are more readily accessable?

Jeah. Because 200kg of Stone is easy to transport if dissolved in around 200 t of liquid.

[Yerameyahu]

And *that* person would be dead. Dissolving is damage, no?

[KarmaInferno]

I don't see why a Turned to Goo person would reform as dead parts, Neraph. Mr. RAW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Depending on what 'glue-like' means, there's no reason he couldn't be poured. He can't be divided into separate pieces, because, "any damage suffered by the gooey form affects the target normally."

Yeah, the text implies the target collapses into a puddle anyhow.

If mere liquid flow was enough to kill the target, wouldn't the spell be automatically lethal?




-k

[Yerameyahu]

And it's not; presumably, you can simply turn back when it's no longer sustained. After all, if it *were* automatically lethal, why would they bother specifically talking about taking damage? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It *is* an automatic 'knockout', because the target it unconscious (same as Petrify). Good times.

[Stahlseele]

Soo . . what happens when you use petrify on someone and then turn to goo?
Or the other way around?

[Yerameyahu]

With or without dropping the sustaining on the first spell? If you sustain both, I assume the last one takes precedence: straight from chalk to goo, or vice versa.

[CanRay]

Soo . . what happens when you use petrify on someone and then turn to goo?
Or the other way around?

The magic gets confused and a spirit comes to pimp slap the magician into not doing things like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

If you're lucky, it isn't a Fire Elemental.

[Stahlseele]

The magic gets confused and a spirit comes to pimp slap the magician into not doing things like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

If you're lucky, it isn't a Fire Elemental.

heh, i dig ^^

[Dr.Rockso]

So what exactly happens to cyberware when you turn someone to goo? Is this easiest way to remove a cranial bomb or would removing cyber cause damage?

[Stahlseele]

We don't like to talk about this. It's kinda like the improved Invisibility debate <.<
If i remember correctly, the spells description explicitly states that only biological matter is changed.
This excludes cyberware obviously. It goes then on to tell you how difficult it would be to remove
stuff from the slime, by giving you the barrier rating of the stuff. But technically, you could simply
use a sieve or a smaller hole than the now visible cyber and pour the slime through it . .
But nowhere can you find any mention about how this affects the character originally containing the
cyberware to begin with . . especially once the spell is lifted again . .

[CanRay]

"I can count to potato!" "Yeah, Chuck was never the same after we used the Flesh-To-Goo spell to get rid of that pesky Cranial Bomb. Seems it was wired to a few things he needed..."

[Yerameyahu]

EDIT: Psh. Forget everything I had written here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It specifically says cyberware doesn't Turn to Goo. Crazy, because it's 'Essence-Paid'. I guess you lose it all, leaving horrific holes in your body. :/

I don't know if the barrier rating is for removing things (I assumed it was for damage resistance), but that is an interesting perspective: the goo has a tough outer membrane? Cyberware floats safely inside until the spell is dropped? The spell should be renamed 'Turn to Gummy Bear'.

[Sephiroth]

Cyberware is part of you. It certainly turns to goo. Cranial bombs are technically not Essence-paid anymore (I think?), but they're still cyberware (Grandfather clause, maybe). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They 'cost' 0 Essence. Not 'no Essence', so maybe that counts as Essence-paid. Anyway: cyberware is mystically integrated with your being. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Turn to Goo transforms living tissue into a sticky, glue-like substance. The caster must win an Opposed Test pitting her Spellcasting + Magic against the target's Body (+ Counterspelling). Additionally, the spell's Force must equal or exceed the target's Body. Non-living material--including clothing gear, and cyberware---is not affected.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Yerameyahu