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post Mar 8 2004, 12:20 AM
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Can a Ranger-X bow but used with smart-link system? Does it have to be internal or external? And if its all external do ALL weapons work with it?

For elementals for aspected mages, in the book it says it takes a heretic circle and hours to summon an elemental but you can bind it to a foci, does that mean you can summon it at almost will? For example a lighter is the foci with the fire elemental bound to it, and during the run an aspected mage turns on the lighter and has a spray can, and fires the spray towards the lighters flames, and from the flames arises the fire elemental. Is that possible or does he need hours to summon the same fire elemental?
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Jason Farlander
post Mar 8 2004, 12:25 AM
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You can not equip any non-firearm with a smartlink or smartlink-2 system. I don't really know what you mean by your second question... reading it made my head hurt. Perhaps when that subsides I'll attempt to answer it if no one else has.
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post Mar 8 2004, 12:40 AM
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I have never seen any rules where an elemental can be bound to a foci. Page number for reference please?
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post Mar 8 2004, 12:50 AM
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You can certainly smartlink a bow, it says so in the Cannon Companion. You need to buy an accessory mount, so it'd be external. I think internal (or "integrated" if you prefer) versions should exist, but they don't exist in any books. And no other non-firearm weapons can mount a smartlink as far as I know.

As for your second question, ditto Bit. You can't bind elementals to a focus, whatever that might mean.
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:21 AM
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I have never seen any rules where an elemental can be bound to a foci.

Well... an Obeahifa can bind a spirit to a gris-gris, but that's a great deal different than what he's asking. Those are basically souped-up watchers, and not elementals. So, the answer to his question is no, you cannot bind an elemental to a focus.
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:24 AM
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A spirit focus does not bind a spirit to the focus for instant conjuring of an elemental, it just gives its force in bonus dice for conjuring the appropriate spirit type.

Once an elemental is conjured, it can wait in the astral nearby or off in its own metaplane until its conjurer calls it. Calling an already bound elemental is a complex action (John confirmed that it is complex) and the elemental will then be in your immediate vicinity and ready to pay off the services you achieved with your conjuring test.
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (Zazen)
You can certainly smartlink a bow, it says so in the Cannon Companion.

Well, holy poop. So you can. I never noticed that before (probably because I've never had a player use a bow before).
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:31 AM
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My mistake, not bound to the foci but bound to the magician period, they can be summoned at will when the circumstances allow it? (i.e. when there's a fire, or its rain, etc. etc.)
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:33 AM
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If you conjure up an elemental, but don't want to immediately use all of the services that it owes you, you can put it on standby. It then vanishes from the physical and astral planes, but remains "bound" to you - no foci are involved here - and you can call it forth (with an Exclusive Complex Action) any time you want to use its services, at which point it will reappear on the astral plane in your vicinity and you can then command it normally.

edit: You need a quantity of the element present for the initial summoning, but you don't need it to call forth an elemental that you've previously summoned and put on standby. You just will it to appear and it does.

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post Mar 8 2004, 01:34 AM
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You can bind a spirit to certain purposes by spending karma, such as guarding an area.

All elementals need to be summoned over a long ritual in a specially prepared circle with conjuring materials. Once that is done, it will either float around the mage or wait far away waiting to be called. Each has its advantages.
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post Mar 8 2004, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE (Ninku)
My mistake, not bound to the foci but bound to the magician period, they can be summoned at will when the circumstances allow it? (i.e. when there's a fire, or its rain, etc. etc.)

Circumstances dont even really have to allow it... after you have summoned an elemental, it can be called in the astral whenever you wish/spend a complex action as long as you have services remaining. You dont need an open flame to call a fire elemental, you dont need any water to call a water elemental. When you call them, they appear in the astral plane close to you, and will not materialize unless you tell them to.
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post Mar 8 2004, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE (Jason Farlander)
I never noticed that before (probably because I've never had a player use a bow before).

I never would've either if a player didn't bring that to me and ask if he could put it on his blowgun.
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post Mar 8 2004, 02:54 AM
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What page of CC does it say you can SL anything?
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post Mar 8 2004, 03:08 AM
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Just bows and crossbows. Page 13.
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post Mar 8 2004, 03:08 AM
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it doesn't. however, on pg 13, there is a bow accessory mount, which allows bows and crossbows to mount a single imaging or smartlink accessory.
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post Mar 8 2004, 03:12 AM
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post Mar 8 2004, 11:34 AM
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Wasn't there in Shadowbeat a blurb about smartlinks for basketball players?

And if so, couldn't this be expanded to grenades? :P
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post Mar 8 2004, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (tjn)
Wasn't there in Shadowbeat a blurb about smartlinks for basketball players?

And if so, couldn't this be expanded to grenades? :P

Repeated mentions of it for all sports (Football, Basketball and Baseball all get mentioned). No game stats at all but presumably -2TN for relevant tests. Quite how it works is another question completely since I can't think of a way for the targeting system to tell where the ball is been aimed...

Adaptation for grenades is a bloody good idea...
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post Mar 8 2004, 05:01 PM
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It's called Smartball technology, or Smartpuck int he case of hockey.

Shadowrun cyber hockey (shudder).
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post Mar 8 2004, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (Xirces)
QUOTE (tjn @ Mar 8 2004, 11:34 AM)
Wasn't there in Shadowbeat a blurb about smartlinks for basketball players?

And if so, couldn't this be expanded to grenades?  :P

Repeated mentions of it for all sports (Football, Basketball and Baseball all get mentioned). No game stats at all but presumably -2TN for relevant tests. Quite how it works is another question completely since I can't think of a way for the targeting system to tell where the ball is been aimed...

Adaptation for grenades is a bloody good idea...

Grenades, shuriken and just about anything covered by throwing.

Unfortunately, there has never been a canon write-up on the system which first showed up in "Shadowbeat" (I believe).

As for how it would work -- I assume much the same way a more traditional smart system would work. Rangefinder, limited sim rig and specialized processor that calculates range, trajectory, force and so on.

I still want to know what the "limited sim rig" is supposed to do because I know I can warp it to fit other things. :grinbig:

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post Mar 8 2004, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (BitBasher)
Shadowrun cyber hockey (shudder).

As if it wasent dangrous enough now...
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post Mar 8 2004, 07:28 PM
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new plot hooks yay :D Shadow Sports. I think a smartlink will show where the ball is aimed currently, but I'd think the Smartlink obviously only works when the ball is in the players hand. I think it would maybe tweak the aim a lil, so the sport still requires skill to play, but with smartlinks, you have an assistant to let you know your right arm is too low and going to send the ball where you Don't want it.
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post Mar 8 2004, 07:32 PM
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Imagine the new gear, Sport-Tac, a derivitive of Battle-Tac. Gives you real time positions of the members of your team only, current heading and speed. So you can put the ball where they will be more accurately.
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sport-tac, a brilliant idea, wonder what other SR equip could be sport modified.
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post Mar 8 2004, 08:13 PM
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