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[RedmondLarry]

You're welcome. It did take a lot of work to track down all those details. I didn't get it right the first time, and other dumpshockers corrected me. Luckily I posted the corrected rules all together, and it was simple to find that earlier post.

[Lilt]

Dosen't the door become easier to break through as it takes damage? IE: once you get the BR down a bit you'll start blowing 1/2 meter chunks out of it?

[RedmondLarry]

Yup. That's what I describe in my post.

[Kakkaraun]

This is why el.ma.s are awesome...lightning bolt, drone. 'Nuff said.

[Moonstone Spider]

Bah, Lightning bolt is useless against a drone. Granted it's better than Wreck: Vehicle where your TN is a minimum of 8 and against any useful vehicle is in the Teens, but vehicles auto-stagedown the power and damage code of Elemanips as usual which makes their power ineffective.

[A Clockwork Lime]

That's why you just use an Elemental Manipulation spell with Elemental Ice. Doesn't matter what the Power is; it forces any moving vehicle to make a Crash Test and stall. The terrain is also consider Trecherous until th end of the Turn.

[Cold-Dragon]

it's true drones and such tone down damage from things like EM, but you still increase the damage level with successes. Since objects can't roll back, you merely have to use the amount of power that will still work, and then roll.

[Moonstone Spider]

[Cold-Dragon]

aim a flamethrower at the feed side of the MMG if possible? MMG go boom, new hole in side from ammo going off?? ;>

just guess/thought, cars and mounted weapons aren't my specialty.

[A Clockwork Lime]

Elemental Ice works just as effectively against flying vehicles as they do ground vehicles.

[Cain]

Y'know, I used to think there was no point to combat spells when EM's were handy. I still tend to prefer them for my big fragoff spells.

EM's, unlike combat spells, can be used for Called Shots. While the precice value of a called shot depends on your GM, this can be a big edge. (Okay, there's not much value in making a called shot with a Fireball, but it's useful for the humor effect.) You can specifically fry cyberware, for example; or blow off a drone's antenna, or try and cook off their ammo bin.

[theartthief]

My :nuyen: 2:

:nuyen: 1 - Mages will be mages. This is a thought that I borrowed from another thread.

:nuyen: 2 - If you could really do magic, which would you choose? A spell with no visible effect OR one that everyone could see?

- theartthief

[ShadowGhost]

I don't have my books with me, (I'm on vacation), but there's one other bonus to lightning attacks - any successful lightning (electrical) attack against cybered opponents Automatically damages cyberware (MM - in the healing/surgery section I think).

Even if you don't kill them, you've not only given them injury mods, plus as a bonus, at least one piece of cyberware is damaged. So an enemy mage who only took cybereyes is now blind, for example.

[Kakkaraun]

[Tatertot]

Minor point here...but some Shaman Totems offer bonus dice for manipulation spells. So if your totems is say Racoon then lightning bolt (or whatever) may be preferable to a mana bot. This is especially true if your an aspected Shaman (ie can only cast spells and summon spirits of types that your totem gives a bonus to).

[Cold-Dragon]

CS are meant to be destructive and hurt, they're made for combat, not breaking walls (as much as I hate to admit, hehe).

EM spells are designed to give you some control of an element, but is still combat oriented. Course, you can use them for other, simpler purposes too.

flamethrower is the ultimate match or pyrotechnic display
the acid one is good for wall opening or loosening things.
Lightning fries cybers, can power anything that uses electicity and can store the power (a lightning rod helps) and for those that permit very minor uses, it's good for shock therapy.

any others I don't recall or don't know because I only got SR3 and not MitS.

[Cain]

[Mr.Platinum]

Yeah Ole Platinum here used Power Ball all the time.


But then Lighting Bolt just add's flavor