OOC: First Run, Always recruiting players. Options

[WearzManySkins]

Activating counterspelling is a free action. As I understand it once activated it is sustained. I am very weak on the whole counterspelling issue: I am not sure how its meant to be played, but I thought all mages had it active on them when in stressful environments: such as a meet with a Johnson or a run

Yes once declared (Taking a Free Action to do so) it stays in effect until stated that it is no longer in effect/use.

Most Mages in games usually do the Assensing the Team Members. Doing that will/can reveal some information depending on the roll, but beings such as our selves would be revealed that we are not what we appear merely by looking at us on the Astral Plane.

Us being dual natured, always see into the Astral Plane, when non dual natured beings look into the Astral plane we have a chance of noticing that.

Since it has gone to this point I will roll out my Physical Mask once I am back at my home and any drain for such.

Intent was not to stay hidden from those being met with, but to keep the "Straights" from freaking out when a Naga slithers by.

Seems that Invisible Castle does not like my work computer at all, unable to log in.

[Thanee]

I disagree that Counterspelling is a automatic feature of magical types.

In the meantime, I have found an even better quote for you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Magic Actions
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Free Actions
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Declare Counterspelling Protection: A magician who wishes to protect others with Counterspelling (p. 185) must spend a Free Action and declare it in advance (a magician never needs to declare that he is using Counterspelling on himself).

That one should be clear enough, really.

Since it has gone to this point I will roll out my Physical Mask once I am back at my home and any drain for such.

That's a good idea for sure. The whole reason why I found your sustaining focus error is because I was looking for information on that spell (in order to be able to figure out whether the resistance test was successful or not), but apparantly you didn't even make a spellcasting test for that one, yet. So, it seemed a reasonable assumption, that you have that spell in effect pretty much all the time, hence it will be cast into the sustaining focus, quite obviously. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Thanee

[WearzManySkins]

In the meantime, I have found an even better quote for you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



That one should be clear enough, really.




That's a good idea for sure. The whole reason why I found your sustaining focus error is because I was looking for information on that spell (in order to be able to figure out whether the resistance test was successful or not). It seemed a reasonable assumption, that you have that spell in effect pretty much all the time, hence it will be cast into the sustaining focus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Thanee

Physical Mask is listed in the SR4A book, my character information only lists the spell not the effects/resists etc. So your claim above is suspect.

To me it is not an error. Again cease your Character Review/etc, you seem borderline OCD if not totally such. This is the last I will say on this matter, any more such from you, will not get any response from my self.

ASS Sumptions are not always correct, as you will see later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Thanee]

Physical Mask is listed in the SR4A book, my character information only lists the spell not the effects/resists etc. So your claim above is suspect.

I know how the spell works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I was hoping to find some info on your spellcasting routine, so to say, since there was nothing posted about it here on the OOC thread.

To me it is not an error.

Spell Foci
Spell foci empower a magician’s Sorcery skills. There are three types of spell foci: Spellcasting foci, Counterspelling foci, and Sustaining foci. Each spell focus must be attuned to a specific category of spells (Combat, Detection, Health, etc.) when it is created, and this cannot be changed.

There you have it - in cold print.

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Thanee

[Big Fella]

No need for a perception and countermagic for me! (much more fun this way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

mmm nice girly troll.

[Thanee]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Thanee

[Drace]

Wondering on the GMs response to whether the PhysMask works on ultrasound or not? Since ultrasound is a radar "sense" not sight, and goes off of sound, but on the other hand, the mask makes the targeted character "assume" the characteristics of the intended image. Not sure if it works more like shapechange and alters the ultrasound.

[Thanee]

@Drace: Physical Mask is a Physical, Realistic, Multi-Sense illusion (unlike Improved Invisibility, which is Single-Sense, i.e. visual only), so it should affect Ultrasound, too.

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Thanee

[Drace]

Thats what I thought, thanks. Was re-reading the books. Have never actually had mask/physmask used before in a game suprisingly

[WearzManySkins]

@Thanee

Magic Actions
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Free Actions
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Declare Counterspelling Protection: A magician who wishes to protect others with Counterspelling (p. 185) must spend a Free Action and declare it in advance (a magician never needs to declare that he is using Counterspelling on himself).

This merely states you do not have to use a Free Action to use Counterspelling, not that it is automatically in effect.

So basically you are always/constantly counterspelling on yourself?

[WearzManySkins]

I know how the spell works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I was hoping to find some info on your spellcasting routine, so to say, since there was nothing posted about it here on the OOC thread.
<snippage.
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Thanee

Ergo Metagaming

[Thanee]

So basically you are always/constantly counterspelling on yourself?

Effectively, that's what it means. I would rather describe it as constantly being under the protection of your own counterspelling, though. Counterspelling is not really something that you actively do, it's more of a passive protection. The only action you take is extending the protection onto others. Even that only requires minimal action on your part.

Ergo Metagaming

Metagaming is, when the character acts based on knowledge the player has, but the character has not, right?

So, no, it is not.

As a player, of course, I do know that Lamia is masked by a Physical Mask spell (even though I do not know what Force and how many hits the spell has, obviously, since that information does not exist, yet). Dawn does not know this, yet.

However, as a player, I also do know that Dawn will roll to resist the spell as soon as she observes it, so this event does prompt the resistance roll; it is not something that is done actively by Dawn, it just happens automatically.

On the other hand, if I had switched to Astral Perception, that would be closer to metagaming (even though it wouldn't be completely off to do so at this point, so it's more borderline; you even mentioned yourself, that you would assume a mage to do so), since that would then be an action based on knowing (as a player) that there is something interesting to find out that way, but which Dawn couldn't know about.

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Thanee

[WearzManySkins]

Effectively, that's what it means. I would rather describe it as constantly being under the protection of your own counterspelling, though. Counterspelling is not really something that you actively do, it's more of a passive protection. The only action you take is extending the protection onto others. Even that only requires minimal action on your part.

<snippage>
For My Magical Types it is a choice to use Counterspelling. Running around with it in constant use, since it is basically magical jamming, leaves too wide a avenue for a GM to have NPCs interact with you.

Does Counterspelling show up on the Astral Plane? AFB right now.

[Digital Heroin]

I'm going to stay far far away from the magical debate, save to add one very revelant quote:

`Enhance your calm John Spartan.`

Now I know for a fact that Frankie boy ain't gonna see through the spell, nor on any plane of conscience try. He's just gonna smile and try not to be dumb.

Big Fella: I'm not entirely sure, but that troll that's being hit on might be a dude...

[Big Fella]

A dude? Lamia a dude?

She looks like a fine trolless to me: big arms, nice greatcost, loads of charisma...what more could you want... (legs maybe)

Oh well Gtore doesn't need to know about these spell things...if he can see it, it must be real. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Thanee]

Does Counterspelling show up on the Astral Plane? AFB right now.

I'm not sure that is spelled out somewhere (which would mean probably not).
Either way, I don't think it is strikingly obvious, like a spell, for example.

More likely something one has to assense for. But that is pure speculation at this point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Assensing would make it pretty easy to realize, that Dawn is awakened, though (IIRC it was just 1 hit necessary to learn that fact).

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Thanee

[WearzManySkins]

A dude? Lamia a dude?

She looks like a fine trolless to me: big arms, nice greatcost, loads of charisma...what more could you want... (legs maybe)

Oh well Gtore doesn't need to know about these spell things...if he can see it, it must be real. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

LOL the character is a female Lamia, the Physical Mask Spells shows a female Troll, ergo only thing close to her size and mass.
Hard to have a believable illusion of petite elf walking across a floor and hear the floor boards straining.

[Digital Heroin]

Go me for being slow as Frank is... I totally missed that, and then went 'wait, is Gtore hitting on the Trog dude in the fancy suit?' I need to stop indulging in a beer at lunch.

[WearzManySkins]

Physical Mask
Physical Mask Spell 4 Hits
Drain
Drain Test 1 Hit 3 Stun

@Digital Heroin
You get beer during lunch? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[WearzManySkins]

@Thanee
Since you do not have more successes than my 4 ie we are both equal you do not see thru the Physical Mask. Note the spell is being sustained not off loaded into a sustaining focii.

[Digital Heroin]

I don't especially get beer at lunch... but I go to the lower decker's lounge and get one with lunch. It's a bit of naval tradition... ok, I lie, but we are traditionally allowed two beer per man per day at sea, and often that logic extends to the work day. A tipple every now and then never hurts a man, and I'm usually two hours minimum out from driving home, so it works out well.

[WearzManySkins]

I don't especially get beer at lunch... but I go to the lower decker's lounge and get one with lunch. It's a bit of naval tradition... ok, I lie, but we are traditionally allowed two beer per man per day at sea, and often that logic extends to the work day. A tipple every now and then never hurts a man, and I'm usually two hours minimum out from driving home, so it works out well.

Obviously not a USN sailor/ship. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)
British?
Australian?
Canadian?

[Digital Heroin]

Canadian, eh. And you're right, we're one of the big three navies that realizes beer makes things better.

Ask the helmsman we had who was always plastered...

[WearzManySkins]

One workday when my USN ship was in Japan. Two Australian Cruisers pulled into that port during the night.
The next day, I had a lack of work to do, but did not want to be caught not doing anything. I got an idea, I asked my Leading Petty Officer if it was OK for me to go over to one of the Australian Cruisers for a tour of the ship.

My Leading Petty Officer thought it was a great idea, since he would not have to worry about me getting caught.

Went over Cruiser and asked for a tour, the Officer of the Deck said Yes. He hooked me up some of the Cruiser's Personnel that did the same job as me, to give me tour.

The tour lasted 15 minutes, the other 3.5 hours where spent drinking beer down in their Mess.

They carried me back to my ship passed out, and put me into my bunk.

I was the only and last sailor from my ship to go on a tour of that ship during my ships working hours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Thanee]

@Thanee
Since you do not have more successes than my 4 ie we are both equal you do not see thru the Physical Mask. Note the spell is being sustained not off loaded into a sustaining focii.

Actually, no. It's the other way around.

The spellcaster must generate more hits than the observer for the illusion to be considered real.

Ties go to the defender, so to say.

Looking at your spellcasting roll above, I'm wondering how you came up with such a high Drain, though?

What Force did you cast the spell at? For those 4 boxes of Drain, it needs to be F6 at least (which would cause physical Drain already, as it exceeds your Magic).

As a friendly advice... you really should list the Force together with the spellcasting roll. It is quite an important factor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Thanee