Aside from Seattle ... Options

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Nigel Findley's stuff.

2XS, Shadowplay, Lone Wolf, House of the Sun...

All good reads in my humble opinion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Jaid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TQGsrNlj2k

seems pertinent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[CanRay]

These... Are all true.

The black balloons especially. If you put on special sunglasses, you'll see they're actually subliminal advertisements telling people to buy more edible oil products.

And if you think that song was bad, you should see what happened to Angloman (Montreal's Ethnic Minority Superhero) in Toronto!

[Whipstitch]

I don't think Americans have a city of their own they love to hate the way Canadians do Toronto. I wonder if this is a uniquely Canadian thing.

I don't think it's a uniquely Canadian impulse, really, although you guys may be the best single example of the phenomenon. People disparage NYC and LA here in the states quite often, since they're the two most highly populated media centers and thus have the means to trumpet their sense of self-worth all across the globe. Obviously he was on the extreme end of the scale, but the the comedian Bill Hicks had a bit (and later posthumous album) titled Arizona Bay. That's because he claimed to look forward to the day when Los Angeles was swallowed up by the ocean.

[CanRay]

The funny thing is, Vancouver doesn't get the same abuse, nor Montreal. Oh, sure, we'll make fun of them, but we make fun of everyone, ourselves included.

[ravensmuse]

Well, if you're from Boston like I am, you're universally supposed to hate New York City. Because they think they're better than everyone else. They aren't. The rat bastards.

I have to comment on the thing about Ghostwalker: he's not "Godzilla running a city". He's a dude that plunked himself down in a city and made it his kingdom. That's how you have to approach the situation. Denver is also one of the most chaotic yet restricted places on the North American continent, and even years later he's still trying to get everything together. I think the real problem with Ghostwalker is that there haven't really been anything written on the grand scale in Denver for awhile; there's not a whole lot in the Missions stuff, and the last published use of Denver was Dragons of the Sixth Age. So.

But again, my opinion, people can disagree with me, I'll rant at them, and everyone else will be wrong unless they agree with me.

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Myself, I think it's criminal that there hasn't been a good write-up on Boston. Sure, there was Target: North America, but that stinks. And the fan-supplement? WTF were they thinking?

Now I'm living in Lexington and I'm seeing the potential for shadow-ops on horses...

[CanRay]

Hey, horses have always been big business! Horse Rustling used to be a major industry!

As for Denver, well, it's more along the lines of Ghostwalker waking up and going, "HEY! What the drek? There's humans squatting on my property! Well, I guess they can be servants to me... WHO INVITED THOSE BASTARDS IN? OUT YOU GO!" Kicked the Azzies (And their secret overlords) out and took over the rest as is his due. I'm sure he still has the deed to the land somewhere in his pile of tricks from the 4th World or some such to prove he owns the land. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Khairn]

Thanks to everyone for all the help. I'm currently leaning towards HK and will definitely check out those books by Nigel Finley.

And for those from Toronto who were offended by my remarks, I'm truly sorry. I was just trying to have a little fun. Besides, knowing that you're from or even like Toronto is the first step in getting yourself cured. So best wishes to you. Its a tough journey but well worth the effort! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[CanRay]

And those of you from Toronto who were offended by my remarks, I'm originally from Northern Ontario.

That should say all there is that needs to be said.

Although, I would now like to see a Shadowrun Write-up on Toronto, and run the group in that wretched hive of scum and villainy that is "Little New York".

[Stahlseele]

"Haambuurch mooine Perlää" *sings*
The Hamburg setting is good in my opinion.
Or maybe the Berlin one.

[Kyoto Kid]

I don't think Americans have a city of their own they love to hate the way Canadians do Toronto.

...ohh I don't know,I've always hated LA. Been down there on a number of occasions and every time was so glad to leave.

As to hometown, I live in Portland. Running in the Tir can be a B***h! (at least prior to the crash it was). I did however write up Milwaukee (my previous home) and Madison back in the SR3 days. S-K had a major presence in Milwaukee and the city was also home to two member corps of my Olympus Group consortium - Marathon Aerotek and I-Motive.

For an established setting, I heartily second London. it can be quite challenging for a group runners as (at least in the last edition) the populace is effectively disarmed and magic is tightly restricted. Even though it is out of date. the London Sorucebook still has a lot of nice fluff about the basic social structure in the UK that can come in handy.

[Grinder]

"Haambuurch mooine Perlää" *sings*
The Hamburg setting is good in my opinion.
Or maybe the Berlin one.

How very helpful to the OP (who's not from Germany, as it seems):

I plan to include my own creations and changes to the place, but I'm hoping to find a city that already has a good amount of detail written about it. (edition really isn't that important to me)

[Fatum]

How very helpful to the OP (who's not from Germany, as it seems):

Right. Cause only Germans read German, and only Americans use Seattle as their setting.

[Grinder]

Dude, how many non-native german speakers are on this board?

[Mardrax]

A bunch, I'm sure. Either way the OP hasn't mentioned a language issue in response to Sabs mentioning the German edition books on the previous page. and Stahl was answering him. Can we cut the passive aggression now and actually answer that same question?

On subject, I can really affirm both Hong Kong and London. Canon for both has really interested me. Most of my playing been focussed on the UNL so far though, so I haven't had much of a chance to playtest them. I can say that even though most European countries haven't had much in the way of write-ups, they tend to make for pretty interesting settings. In between Swiss (Zurich, anyone?), Germany (hotbed of AA activity and home of S-K), Europort (heavy corp presence, in the middle of what basically constitutes a biohazard zone) and Italy (balkanisation to countries not much bigger than most metroplexes, with actual desecularisation) mainland Europe really has a lot of of potential to offer if you're looking for somewhere to have some room for winging things.
If you want very thoroughly worked out settings though, and lack German language skills, it's not somewhere to go.

[PiXeL01]

Burning Bright by Tom Dowd to add to the above list

[Fatum]

Dude, how many non-native german speakers are on this board?

At least one - my German is rusty, but with a good dictionary I manage to read Pegasus books (and hate Germans for having SR so much better).
If I am able to do that, why wouldn't anyone else?
After all, there's a bunch of non-native English speakers here, and yet that has never been a problem when discussing books or choosing settings.

[CanRay]

My German came from WWII movies made in Hollywood.

I'm pretty sure it's about as accurate as the usage of firearms and the explodability of automobiles.

[Grinder]

At least one - my German is rusty, but with a good dictionary I manage to read Pegasus books (and hate Germans for having SR so much better).
If I am able to do that, why wouldn't anyone else?
After all, there's a bunch of non-native English speakers here, and yet that has never been a problem when discussing books or choosing settings.

Yeah. Whatever.