 Immunity to Natural Armor and normal Armor, Do they stack? |
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 Feb 19 2011, 03:57 AM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957  |
As the title says.
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Feb 19 2011, 04:09 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,557 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Immunity to Normal Weapons and regular armor do indeed stack.
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Feb 19 2011, 04:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 17-November 09 From: Halifax Member No.: 17,884 |
Caveat, they stack for determining how many points of armor you have for things like Damage Resistance test and the like, but they do not stack in determining if you take no damage at all vis a vis the Hardened Armor clause.
So if you have Immunity to Natural Weapons with a Magic Rating of 5 and 12 point of ballistic armor, and someone shoots you with a weapon with a DV of 12, you will still take Stun damage, as the DV of the weapon was less than your total armor (22 points to be precise) but greater than your Immunity rating of 10. |
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Feb 20 2011, 03:47 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (TygerTyger @ Feb 18 2011, 09:35 PM)  Caveat, they stack for determining how many points of armor you have for things like Damage Resistance test and the like, but they do not stack in determining if you take no damage at all vis a vis the Hardened Armor clause. So if you have Immunity to Natural Weapons with a Magic Rating of 5 and 12 point of ballistic armor, and someone shoots you with a weapon with a DV of 12, you will still take Stun damage, as the DV of the weapon was less than your total armor (22 points to be precise) but greater than your Immunity rating of 10. Minor Nitpick on the example (Highlighted above)... You will attempt to Soak 12s, you will not just take it. The armor still works for soaking afterall. |
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Feb 20 2011, 04:19 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,557 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Yes, and your soak attempt uses the full 22 + BOD dice.
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Feb 21 2011, 03:36 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
The above is all correct.
EDIT: Well, except for the part that Timmy pointed out. |
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Feb 21 2011, 08:49 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 17-November 09 From: Halifax Member No.: 17,884 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 20 2011, 11:47 AM) Minor Nitpick on the example (Highlighted above)... You will attempt to Soak 12s, you will not just take it. The armor still works for soaking afterall. Yes, I wasn't as clear on that part. My bad. |
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Feb 21 2011, 11:38 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (TygerTyger @ Feb 21 2011, 01:49 PM) Yes, I wasn't as clear on that part. My bad. I was referring to the quote that the character would take 12 points of damage. I pointed out that there was still a sok left unresolved in there. SO I was right in that, though I guess that I just did not go far enough in my explanation... Timmy? Really? Hmmmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Feb 22 2011, 03:08 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 17-November 09 From: Halifax Member No.: 17,884 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 21 2011, 07:38 PM) I was referring to the quote that the character would take 12 points of damage. I pointed out that there was still a sok left unresolved in there. SO I was right in that, though I guess that I just did not go far enough in my explanation... Timmy? Really? Hmmmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Yes, I was agreeing with you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Something may have gotten lost in translation there. |
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Feb 22 2011, 04:19 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (TygerTyger @ Feb 21 2011, 08:08 PM) Yes, I was agreeing with you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Something may have gotten lost in translation there. No Worries... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Feb 22 2011, 05:10 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
I think its easier to say it this way:
The armor rating from Immunity to Normal Weapons stacks with other forms of armor, but other forms of armor do not stack with the immunity granted by Immunity to Normal Weapons. |
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Feb 22 2011, 06:17 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Feb 22 2011, 10:10 AM) I think its easier to say it this way: The armor rating from Immunity to Normal Weapons stacks with other forms of armor, but other forms of armor do not stack with the immunity granted by Immunity to Normal Weapons. Indeed... Much Better... |
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Feb 22 2011, 06:50 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Thanks all, especially pbangarth, who gave the answer I needed 3 days ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 22 2011, 10:56 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 21 2011, 05:38 PM) Timmy? Really? Hmmmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Your screen name kills my fingers. I don't like my fingers being killed. And that's about how I pronounce it - "Timmy-us." I don't pronounce the last name, partly because the most I can figure is that it starts with "Jal." |
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Feb 23 2011, 01:58 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 22 2011, 03:56 PM) Your screen name kills my fingers. I don't like my fingers being killed. And that's about how I pronounce it - "Timmy-us." I don't pronounce the last name, partly because the most I can figure is that it starts with "Jal." Makes Sense... Could always just use TJ though... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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