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 Mar 16 2011, 02:33 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 4-April 10 Member No.: 18,412  |
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 15 2011, 07:58 PM)  *Chuckles* "Side note: He mention Corps' shit lists. Do you know who they hire for those kinds of traces? Have you ever met the guy that knows the page references in novels, and lives to explain frame rates and polygon refreshing AR? That guy. Most of society thinks the paranoid obsessive cretins of the world are not useful. A good corp knows the value of the Nerd. Turbo Bunny " lol that's awesome. I was hoping someone would dig that. Glad you liked it. QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 15 2011, 06:35 PM) What the fuck is wrong with that pdf file? it's slow as hell, no matter if i download it or try and open in in a browser . . Also: who does that intro blurb remind me of? You know, I noticed the same thing. But, I got it working in Foxit Reader really well, if that helps. |
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Mar 16 2011, 04:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,139 Joined: 31-March 10 From: UCAS Member No.: 18,391 |
Just finished the first chapter. The shadow talk seemed a lil pissy there for some of it. lol They're not all happy fluffy that's for sure.
The Doc Wagon thing.. awesome. lol |
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Mar 16 2011, 04:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 11-May 10 From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 18,569 |
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 15 2011, 11:00 PM) Just finished the first chapter. The shadow talk seemed a lil pissy there for some of it. lol They're not all happy fluffy that's for sure. The Doc Wagon thing.. awesome. lol Just finished it too, and you're right, awesome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Mar 16 2011, 05:13 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 15 2011, 11:40 PM) Anyone bought it and wants to share? the Preview looks a little ness like a trainwreck than War!, and some of the authors have delivered on SR before - and the one person present from the War Team is Filamena Young, who probably wrote the half decent parts of it ... still, anyone got anything on this thing? Plus David A. Hill Jr., iirc. |
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Mar 16 2011, 05:59 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Slowly working my way through it, and realized that we don't see much written BY FastJack himself. (And worried about his Daughter, eh? Hm, I wonder where that idea came from.).
Anyhow, reading it, I can't help but picture Spider Jerusalem sitting down in his easy chair, telling the TV Wall to "Entertain Me" while stroking "That Damned Cat". All he needs now is a Bowel Disruptor. |
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Mar 16 2011, 06:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,139 Joined: 31-March 10 From: UCAS Member No.: 18,391 |
By this point Fastjack is in his 50s isn't he? He's more the "old man" of the group. He delegates. lol He has for the last few runs anyway. He chimes in now and then but mostly it's "I found this expert to fill you all in on this subject"
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Mar 16 2011, 06:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 16 2011, 02:19 PM) By this point Fastjack is in his 50s isn't he? He's more the "old man" of the group. He delegates. lol He has for the last few runs anyway. He chimes in now and then but mostly it's "I found this expert to fill you all in on this subject" From the main book, he says he was born in 1999 - so he's like 73 or so I think |
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Mar 16 2011, 06:55 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,139 Joined: 31-March 10 From: UCAS Member No.: 18,391 |
kk well there we go. Even more so. And while I'm sure he can afford the tech to come off much younger than he seems. He's still not likely to be a front line sort. He's the respectiable 'old man' of the shadow run scene now. After Chaos died/went into the matrix.
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Mar 16 2011, 08:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Sorĝ, Denmark Member No.: 5,604 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 16 2011, 01:40 AM) Preview looks good so far, but given that this is the first post-War! book I'll hold on to my money until reading a couple of reviews, or reading the extra-large preview somewhere (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) PS: The TOC mentions "The Elementals"...I know I've read something about that, but I just can't put teh finger on it... One hint: Total Eclipse There is a ton of references to old adventures and old sourcebooks, especiall in The Music Scene chapter. As an oldtimer I really like this. Lars |
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Mar 16 2011, 08:26 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE The wearable drone jumps out at me as something that is unlikely to be allowed into most games. Wearable drone, wtf ... well, at least I can use those rules for my Space Marines ... QUOTE Plus David A. Hill Jr., iirc. Of course. I was up late, in my excuse. Well, maybe he has learned to use Grammar by now. QUOTE Anyhow, reading it, I can't help but picture Spider Jerusalem sitting down in his easy chair, telling the TV Wall to "Entertain Me" while stroking "That Damned Cat". All he needs now is a Bowel Disruptor. *giggle* Amusing image. Well, on with the review. Firstly: It has an introduction. Seems this basic thing has been kept in mind with this. And it even ties in the well drawn but retarded tit window cover. Nice work, people (probably) long gone - if that's an idea by a new author, kudos. Also, proofers! Yay for quality control. Kudos to them all. If War taught me anything it's how valuable, yet underrated, these guys are. However - and this is a question more than a nitpick: is "You’ll be caught up on fashion trends like" a sensible way to put "you will know about fashion trends"? Always thought that was 'have caught up'. Posting more as I read deeper into this. I'll go about it page by page, even though I'm sort of itching to find out about the wearable drones. Especially how they handle IP. |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:16 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,092 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Larsine @ Mar 16 2011, 09:18 AM) One hint: Total Eclipse That's it, the guys with the ritual song. Thanks! QUOTE (BlackHat @ Mar 16 2011, 01:24 AM) Haven't read it cover to cover, but I made it through the crunchy bits in some detail. There are more useful items that I thought. The wearable drone jumps out at me as something that is unlikely to be allowed into most games. (Strength becomes 8, but agility is reduced by 1?) Somehow my imagination has been tainted by countless variations of powered armor and military exoskeletons, so how does a wearable drone in a culture sourcebook look like? PS: And a plea to CGL: Create one sharp background image (either high-res bitmap or vector graphic) for the Jackpoint page and use that in all future products. The fluctuating image quality across PDFs is just weird, and sometimes it looks really bad...based on the preview, Attitude seems to be somewhere in the middle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:19 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Somehow my imagination has been tainted by countless variations of powered armor and military exoskeletons, so how does a wearable drone in a culture sourcebook look like? Maybe Attitude also has a map - who knows? I second the plea about vector graphics. |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:25 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 4-April 10 Member No.: 18,412 |
QUOTE (Grinder @ Mar 16 2011, 12:13 AM) Plus David A. Hill Jr., iirc. Yeah. I worked on War!. I also have an upcoming Horizon Adventures bit, and a couple of other things in the pipeline. QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 15 2011, 11:00 PM) Just finished the first chapter. The shadow talk seemed a lil pissy there for some of it. lol They're not all happy fluffy that's for sure. The Doc Wagon thing.. awesome. lol Pissy was a goal. Attitude's the name of the bit, I figured I'd dial it up a bit. Thanks on the DocWagon thing, too. |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:42 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 4-April 10 Member No.: 18,412 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 16 2011, 04:26 AM) Of course. I was up late, in my excuse. Well, maybe he has learned to use Grammar by now. Nope. However, I'm pretty good with Proper Nouns. |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:51 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 16 2011, 04:26 PM) However - and this is a question more than a nitpick: is "Youll be caught up on fashion trends like" a sensible way to put "you will know about fashion trends"? Always thought that was 'have caught up'. "You'll be caught up on..." can be used, it has a similar meaning to "You'll be brought up to speed on..." or "You'll be briefed / taught about..." |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:52 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Nope. However, I'm pretty good with Proper Nouns. Will you pay me for my forum posts? Then we'll talk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) QUOTE "You'll be caught up on..." can be used, it has a similar meaning to "You'll be brought up to speed on..." or "You'll be briefed / taught about..." Thanks. I was unfamiliar with that. |
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Mar 16 2011, 10:53 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
QUOTE (David Hill @ Mar 16 2011, 06:42 PM) Nope. However, I'm pretty good with Proper Nouns. In his defense, isn't he German? |
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Mar 16 2011, 11:03 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
That too. But I just didn't check the post for spelling. Usually, I try to catch me using German capitalisation rules, so it was a reasonably fair jab. Of course, I could also say he now owes me $18 then ...
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Mar 16 2011, 11:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Sorĝ, Denmark Member No.: 5,604 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 15 2011, 11:35 PM) Is that bad? If Deus Ex: Human Evolution looks like Shadowrun, and the intro to Attitude, then who do you think inspired, and who was inspired? Are you suggesting Attitude is a rip of of Deux Ex? Wondering... Lars |
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Mar 16 2011, 11:57 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 4-April 10 Member No.: 18,412 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 16 2011, 06:03 AM) That too. But I just didn't check the post for spelling. Usually, I try to catch me using German capitalisation rules, so it was a reasonably fair jab. Of course, I could also say he now owes me $18 then ... Then you're unfamiliar with pay in the RPG industry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) No offense meant. Just poking fun. I'm not certain what specific grammatical errors I made in War, although in my defense I wasn't paid as the editor for that book. I'm sure I made mistakes. Could I have spent more time combing through my text for errors? Possibly. But when I'm on short deadlines, and have to do other work to pay the bills, sometimes I have to weigh the value of doing extra edits on something that's being handed to an editor anyway. QUOTE (Larsine @ Mar 16 2011, 06:17 AM) Is that bad? If Deus Ex: Human Evolution looks like Shadowrun, and the intro to Attitude, then who do you think inspired, and who was inspired? Are you suggesting Attitude is a rip of of Deux Ex? Wondering... Lars While I didn't write the intro, I will say that the writing for this book was done far before the Human Revolution material started filtering out into the public. IIRC, it was about a year and a half ago. |
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Mar 16 2011, 12:37 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Then you're unfamiliar with pay in the RPG industry Well, it's the retail price of war, but yeah, it's 3 ct/word or something? QUOTE No offense meant. Just poking fun. I'm not certain what specific grammatical errors I made in War, although in my defense I wasn't paid as the editor for that book. I'm sure I made mistakes. None taken. I lashed out, you jabbed back, all fair game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Btw, if you wrote Bogotá (I think you did?), you made several rather glaring spelling errors like 'carniverous' that should have been caught in a spellcheck. Of course, that's usualy what proofers are for, so blaming you for the mistakes down the chain maybe is a bit unfair. Still, carniverous ... what is it with English natives and vowels anyway? I notice that a lot. Not directed at you personally, I'm just wondering. QUOTE While I didn't write the intro, I will say that the writing for this book was done far before the Human Revolution material started filtering out into the public. IIRC, it was about a year and a half ago. Alright, then it's a Molly Millions/Gibson reference, I guess. Just, the similarities ARE striking. |
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Mar 16 2011, 12:55 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 16 2011, 05:03 AM) That too. But I just didn't check the post for spelling. Usually, I try to catch me using German capitalisation rules, so it was a reasonably fair jab. Of course, I could also say he now owes me $18 then ... I don't know, wouldn't you owe HIM $18 for the Editing Process? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Mar 16 2011, 12:59 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE I don't know, wouldn't you owe HIM $18 for the Editing Process? Since that's done at CGL by author support, sans pay, from what I heared, I guess ... no. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 16 2011, 01:14 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 15 2011, 05:35 PM) What the fuck is wrong with that pdf file? it's slow as hell, no matter if i download it or try and open in in a browser . . I had the same problem, opened it up in Acrobat Pro, used the "reduce file size" tool set to "4.0 or later" compatibility. Result: File size reduced about a megabyte, PDF pages load almost instantly now, no apparent loss of detail. [edit] Crap, lost the Bookmarks as part of the process. Will have to look on this further -k |
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Mar 16 2011, 01:17 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 16 2011, 06:59 AM) Since that's done at CGL by author support, sans pay, from what I heared, I guess ... no. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Heh... Fair Enough... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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