 Mind Control, How many different ways can you do it? |
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 Mar 30 2011, 09:24 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 21-February 11 Member No.: 22,370  |
Pretty much like the topic says, I'm writing an adventure for my players and I'm wondering how many ways there are ingame to control a person's actions. It doesn't necessarily have to be full-on mind control, but any way at all of controlling how a person acts and speaks is what I'm looking for here.
Off the top of my head, I know there's several manipulation spells that do the trick, but for how long do they work? Are there any non-magical methods of mind control? |
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Mar 30 2011, 09:37 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Stirrup Interface from Augmentation arguably works on humans, as it effectively is a Move-by-Wire system with remote control. Or good old-fashioned blackmail, cranial bombs or hostages can be quite convincing...
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Mar 30 2011, 10:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
Thats not mind control persay.
I do know that simsense can be used to brain wash people. |
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Mar 30 2011, 10:47 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
The Control Actions and Control Thoughts Mental Manipulation spells. Caster is rolling Spellcasting+Magic. The target first resists with Willpower+Counterspelling, and then can spend a Complex Action every (Force) Turns to make a new roll, further diminishing the number of net hits. When reduced to 0, the spell no longer affects the target. So, this is not going to last more than a few minutes at best.
Possession Spirit. The spirit takes a Complex Action, rolling Forcex2 against the target Intuition+Willpower. One net hit is enough, but if the spirit fails, he cannot retry before the next sunrise or sunset. Unless banished, the spirit can retain control of the body as long as it is willing or ordered to : next sunrise or sunset for a summoned spirit, forever if bound (and if you ask me, yes, this is overpowered). |
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Mar 30 2011, 10:53 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
Programmable ASSIST Biofeedback Conditioning. Straight up brainwashing by simsense. It's in Unwired. It only changes memories though, and it takes weeks of work to do. It is pretty much permenant alteration though. First a guy has to identify which memories are false and then they have to undergo the same process to reverse the brainwashing.
Other than that, there's the Influence spell and the Alter Memory spell. Influence can last as long as the person it's cast on doesn't question the effects. Every time they question their behavior, they roll to reduce net hits. Same with Alter Memory. |
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Mar 30 2011, 10:56 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Pornomancing, to a certain extent.
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 Mar 30 2011, 11:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 577 Joined: 23-July 03 From: outside America Member No.: 5,015 |
QUOTE (TheOOB @ Mar 31 2011, 09:36 AM)  Thats not mind control persay. Don't you mean per se? There's an admin at work who often tries to appear erudite by mixing Latin into her emails but it backfires when she demonstrates she can't spell the Latin words! It's not quite as bad as the Architect's speech from the matrix films, but it's still very cringeworthy.
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Mar 31 2011, 12:05 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
You got grammarbaited.
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Mar 31 2011, 12:25 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
QUOTE (Bodak @ Mar 30 2011, 07:49 PM) Don't you mean per se? There's an admin at work who often tries to appear erudite by mixing Latin into her emails but it backfires when she demonstrates she can't spell the Latin words! It's not quite as bad as the Architect's speech from the matrix films, but it's still very cringeworthy. It's a fairly common expression that I spelled phonetically. Sorry if I didn't take dead languages in high school. |
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Mar 31 2011, 01:02 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
I wish dead languages was an option at my school. Even if I'd only end up learning the Latin for 'bitch' and ending every sentence with it.
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Mar 31 2011, 01:30 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Psycotropic IC. Have a nice life!
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Mar 31 2011, 11:58 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
The Commanding Voice adept power is a good one.
I don't recall whether RAW has a drug for suggestibility but creating a realistic one shouldn't be too tricky. If you really push the OP's criteria illusion spells could qualify. I.e. it's not actually controlling the subject, but it will make others think he's doing what you want them to think he's doing. Would hacking a guy's don module work? As in subjecting him to stimuli that would evoke the desired actions. Illusion spells could work this way too. Good ol' fashioned blackmail. |
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Mar 31 2011, 12:02 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
All you need is a drug that lowers willpower.
Seeing how suggestions and the such are resisted with willpower, or willpower at least being a huge part of said resistance, you basically have a mind control drug. Hence, alcohol. |
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Mar 31 2011, 03:07 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 31 2011, 07:02 AM) Hence, alcohol. "Getting ugly people laid since... Well, before writing." |
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Mar 31 2011, 04:14 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,087 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (TheOOB @ Mar 30 2011, 10:36 PM) Thats not mind control persay. -> QUOTE (Loch @ Mar 30 2011, 09:24 PM) It doesn't necessarily have to be full-on mind control, but any way at all of controlling how a person acts and speaks is what I'm looking for here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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