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 Aug 20 2011, 09:51 AM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 14-June 10 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 18,704  |
This is why I don't think I could ever play a tech char in Shadowrun. That is really confusing... ?_?;;;
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Aug 20 2011, 10:39 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
I think its ok with handwavium: roll some die if it goes well compared to your level and the bad guys level you succeed. If you don't you fail. A few worked examples would help as well. Actually I am enjoying the learning experience, and I'll see if I can make some simplified flowcharts.
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Aug 20 2011, 10:44 AM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
QUOTE (Seth @ Aug 20 2011, 11:39 AM)  I think its ok with handwavium: roll some die if it goes well compared to your level and the bad guys level you succeed. If you don't you fail. A few worked examples would help as well. Actually I am enjoying the learning experience, and I'll see if I can make some simplified flowcharts. I'd go along with this...it is complicated and I'm only just learning all this too so bear with me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Simply put, drones shouldn't be that easy to hack otherwise nobody would use them! In this case you are both about comparable with the rigger running the drone, and there are two of you so with attacks from all angles I might be mean and say he's jumped in...this ends all the confusion at this point as there's nothing you can do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif) Of course this is a little 'rail roady' so perhaps I'll let you have your nefarious way with the drone...hmmm, will have to consider carefully, that's 75K+ of hardware that is gunning for you! Sorry for slowness will try and pick this up again next week (work permitting... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) ) |
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Aug 20 2011, 12:53 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
Personally I prefer drones to be hackable. If drones were not hackable there would be no point for runners. Why send in a street samurai when you can send in a doberman? Answer because the doberman is easy to hack.
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Aug 20 2011, 01:17 PM
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#305
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
QUOTE (Seth @ Aug 20 2011, 01:53 PM) Personally I prefer drones to be hackable. If drones were not hackable there would be no point for runners. Why send in a street samurai when you can send in a doberman? Answer because the doberman is easy to hack. I take your point...although there's more to running than pointing a gun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think I will rule (for now) that between you and Galen you've accessed the drone's node...of course as soon as it does something untoward the rigger is likely to know...he may even be sitting in the van no more than 20m away...and then you'll have some cyber combat on your hands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...and we get a whole load of new rules to re read (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Aug 20 2011, 01:47 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 15-August 11 Member No.: 35,833 |
Yay, my internet's back! It's bad when the ISP has to change thier normal automated tech support phone recording from: "hi, thanks for calling. Where are you and what's wrong?" ... to: "Many of our customers are totally screwed right now, we know, please stop telling us, we're working on it". Well, maybe not those exact words.
QUOTE (Seth @ Aug 20 2011, 06:53 AM) Personally I prefer drones to be hackable. If drones were not hackable there would be no point for runners. Why send in a street samurai when you can send in a doberman? Answer because the doberman is easy to hack. Most drones are also less adaptable, barring direct remote control or jumping in, which a rigger can only do to one at a time. But, most hackers are not nearly as good as a dedicated runner hacker. Drones are also much cheaper to replace then a normal person that works for you as the people tend to have things like rights and benefits (often including death benefits for sammy-types in corps). Anyhoo, IC post incoming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 21 2011, 09:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 23-February 11 Member No.: 22,566 |
Doza is wondering if she can hack the drone? .... into little pieces with her Ingram.
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Aug 21 2011, 02:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 15-August 11 Member No.: 35,833 |
QUOTE (Alyena @ Aug 21 2011, 03:26 AM) Doza is wondering if she can hack the drone? .... into little pieces with her Ingram. That could be hard to do, hacking into pieces.... How do you feel about swiss cheese? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 21 2011, 08:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 459 Joined: 2-October 10 Member No.: 19,092 |
Dealer
Not as elegant as a nifty excel sheet, but sometimes brute force works better. Work in progress. [ Spoiler ]
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Aug 21 2011, 09:18 PM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
Hi Applied Cheese! Your sheet is a little difficult to read, any chance of clearing some of the extraneous info out? Any ideas which plotlines you'd like in on? There are two main ones at the moment, mine and Seth's. Both different, both chaotic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
@Doza et al. will try and sort out your plotline tomorrow, sorry for the wait! |
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Aug 22 2011, 08:06 AM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
Thanks for moving us on Seth! I'll catch up with your part of the thread today...promiss (ish) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Aug 22 2011, 08:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 459 Joined: 2-October 10 Member No.: 19,092 |
I'm afraid that due to network restrictions I can't host the file anywhere. If you know how to insert an excel file onto the boards, or have an e-mail you'd like me to send to, it would be appreciated.
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Aug 22 2011, 08:21 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
@Aria/Jotamon
Firstly: hope work is going well. Personally I find it hard to GM when work is going crazy: I find being tired kills creativity. Just so that we are in sync: Doza and I are waiting for you to tell us what is happening. If you want we'll do another post. Doza would like to know if the drone needs to be shot again (I hope so because I want to use the drone to shoot the Van, but there you go). @Aria/Copperhead/Pixel/Demon I moved you all into the Drunken Drone, and you have met Hansai Jones. You can read Pixel's brief above for details about him, and I hope the plot is now clearer rather than thicker. Jonathan Teague is of course the man who hired Ember initially. So either Mr Teague was lying or Hansai Jones was lying. You can try and do a suitable "sense motives roll" if you want. I'm anticipating that you throw a few questions at him, then I will move the story on again. Don't leave the bar IC just yet...(mu ha ha...evil plots brewing). |
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Aug 22 2011, 12:40 PM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
QUOTE (AppliedCheese @ Aug 22 2011, 09:16 AM) I'm afraid that due to network restrictions I can't host the file anywhere. If you know how to insert an excel file onto the boards, or have an e-mail you'd like me to send to, it would be appreciated. I tend to copy and paste the excel file straight to the boards (and then tidy it up manually as there tends to be stuff that looks strange) but I guess it depends what format it's in there (I use my own). Does DK's character creater <<here>> not export to a text file? |
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Aug 22 2011, 12:43 PM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
QUOTE (Seth @ Aug 22 2011, 09:21 AM) @Aria/Jotamon Firstly: hope work is going well. Personally I find it hard to GM when work is going crazy: I find being tired kills creativity. Just so that we are in sync: Doza and I are waiting for you to tell us what is happening. If you want we'll do another post. Doza would like to know if the drone needs to be shot again (I hope so because I want to use the drone to shoot the Van, but there you go). What ammo type is Doza using? Assuming its conventional rounds then sadly I have to report they are bouncing off (I haven't rolled any dodge or anything yet but I will do so if you're using funky rounds?!?). I'll try and get this IC and Jotamon's redirect to the rigger's master node (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif) I'm assuming Jamie is trying for a subtler approach and is tracing the signal back to source so that she can spoof it... |
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Aug 22 2011, 12:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
COol: I'll redo my spoofing post to be in line with yours...so don't worry about continuity.
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Aug 22 2011, 12:54 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 14-June 10 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 18,704 |
LOL, fair dues. Let me just post a quick inventory update...
[ Spoiler ] And...I'd like to pick up some APDS rounds if that's okay... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Aug 22 2011, 01:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 506 Joined: 5-October 10 Member No.: 19,098 |
QUOTE (Aria @ Aug 22 2011, 07:43 AM) I'm assuming Jamie is trying for a subtler approach and is tracing the signal back to source so that she can spoof it... When I was told I couldn't hack it, that was my intention. I had intended to brute force hack it originally. If you want to redirect me so I'm going into the master node, I'm fine with that. |
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Aug 22 2011, 01:32 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
QUOTE I'd like to pick up some APDS rounds I don't fully understand how the equipment rules in 2072 are working. APDS is 16F availability. Aria can you answer this? (Personally I am happy if you want to load up with cop killer ammo...the cops are expecting it...) |
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Aug 22 2011, 02:13 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 14-June 10 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 18,704 |
Yeah, that's why I'm asking. If it's being used against me, I'd like to be using it, too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Aug 22 2011, 02:26 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 15-August 11 Member No.: 35,833 |
QUOTE (Seth @ Aug 22 2011, 07:32 AM) I don't fully understand how the equipment rules in 2072 are working. APDS is 16F availability. Aria can you answer this? (Personally I am happy if you want to load up with cop killer ammo...the cops are expecting it...) I thought I'd read that anything Availability 12 and under was basically a gimmie. Anything over that was GM approval. Also, I guess Hansai didn't take Pixel up on the offer to cart Plum in with him instead. |
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Aug 22 2011, 03:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 29-July 10 From: PAN Hidden Member No.: 18,869 |
@Seth
Copperhead has lousy perception and no idea what astral defences there might be in place, but she might at least be able to tell if he's on the level. Intuition 3 + Assensing 2 = 5d6.hits(5)=3 - I'm assuming she recovered from her 1S stun on the drive over but result is the same even if you knock the last one off for her headache. |
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Aug 22 2011, 04:23 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
@Xarin
I misread you: I thought plum would be a combat bot, and the combat bots are all deployed in carefully concealed locations. Hansai is happy with Barney anyway. Put a ribbon around it, and it can be carried anywhere. @Notsoevil Your assensing show you an inhuman control of his aura. This is a man who has Zen master coming out of his ears. You have seen this sort of stuff before in the very scary physical adept/martial arts masters. He is clearly awakened. You don't detect any cyberware. His katana is a foci: with 3 successes you think it is a dual focus (power + weapon you suspect). He is wearing a ring that looks to you to be some kind of foci that sustains a spell. @JxJxA I think at the moment you cannot approach any contact with a loyalty of less than 4. And 4 might be pushing it depending on the person. If you have a suitable contact you can buy the ammo. Your other option is to go and ask Molly. You think that this is just the sort of place where you could buy some illegal stuff. |
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Aug 22 2011, 04:38 PM
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Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267 |
Ok, hopefully I've moved on the Doza, Jamie and Jotamon thread without stepping on your toes too badly...
I'm assuming Doza is shooting, Jamie spoofing and Jotamon trying a hack...yes we can go back and edit if you like...I'm hoping that you are happy with the info I've given you though! To everyone: Ok, so the issue of gear etc has raised its head again so let’s quantify it now. My take on it is:
I’m happy to discuss this though if anyone has other ideas? |
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Aug 22 2011, 05:06 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
@Aria
Those sound a good set of ground rules. So in the Ember game, I'm saying availability >12 is temporarily banned unless you have a suitable contact. I'm also saying that right were you are is a good place to try and get any amount of illegal stuff: just do it IC |
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