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 Psychotropic Black Ice, did that disappear in 4th ed? |
 Jul 22 2011, 08:45 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668  |
I always liked that as a plot device. Was the dackers just knockedo ut by grey ice? Survived Black or did she get reprogrammed?
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Jul 22 2011, 08:46 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
It's in Unwired.
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Jul 22 2011, 08:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
Can you say what page? I keep missing it. That was why I posted here.
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Jul 22 2011, 08:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Jul 22 2011, 05:48 PM)  Can you say what page? I keep missing it. That was why I posted here. Unwired, 115. |
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Jul 22 2011, 09:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif) Thanks.
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Jul 22 2011, 10:11 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
I kinda sorta feel using those is kinda a dick move by a GM - there's a random chance you're giving a character a crippling permanent disorder, even if he hasn't done anything wrong.
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Jul 22 2011, 11:28 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Which, in theory, you could get removed through Psychotherapy... Just Sayin' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Makes for an interesting Story. |
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Jul 22 2011, 11:52 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
Makes for an interesting story, if the player's ready to tell it. Most players I know are not.
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Jul 23 2011, 12:49 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I gave it to one of my PCs in a campaign that fell apart. It went into his Datajack's hardware memory (Limited though it was) and stuck him in a Simsense Loop where he was in a room with four doors, that lead to a room with four doors...
He never took a door for granted ever again. |
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Jul 23 2011, 01:17 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (Fatum @ Jul 22 2011, 11:11 PM) I kinda sorta feel using those is kinda a dick move by a GM - there's a random chance you're giving a character a crippling permanent disorder, even if he hasn't done anything wrong. Well, aside from illegally break into some secure area and started poking through someone's private files, looking for stuff to steal and sell off for cash. But, you know, aside from *that*... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 23 2011, 01:51 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Sorry, Daddy's Little. I forget that the books exist in non-PDF (searchable!) form. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jul 23 2011, 10:33 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I like my books printed on the dead bodies of many, many trees!
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Jul 23 2011, 10:47 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 23 2011, 12:33 PM) I like my books printed on the dead bodies of many, many trees! Stop that newfangled drek. You need them carved onto giant slabs of rock. |
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Jul 23 2011, 03:19 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Fatum @ Jul 22 2011, 05:52 PM) Makes for an interesting story, if the player's ready to tell it. Most players I know are not. That may very well be the case. But you really have to trust your GM. If you can't do that, the story will go nowhere anyways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Jul 23 2011, 04:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
QUOTE (Fatum @ Jul 22 2011, 06:11 PM) I kinda sorta feel using those is kinda a dick move by a GM - there's a random chance you're giving a character a crippling permanent disorder. You're right, I'm going to have the sam shot in the kneecap and the mage's eyes gouged. Happy now? |
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Jul 23 2011, 05:30 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Jul 23 2011, 06:14 PM) You're right, I'm going to have the sam shot in the kneecap and the mage's eyes gouged. Happy now? The sam probably has more armor in the cyberleg, and the mage will get better with cybereyes anyhow. This makes me happy. |
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Jul 23 2011, 05:30 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Jul 23 2011, 12:14 PM) You're right, I'm going to have the sam shot in the kneecap and the mage's eyes gouged. Happy now? Or just play in my games, where a good amount of regular damage can lead to any and all of the above. Plus the slow heal times in which you'll be in trouble, if not completely gimped, when you try to do a good paying run. |
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Jul 25 2011, 03:26 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
I feel sad every time I see someone post about how their players won't roll with some issue imposed upon their character. I've been hella fortunate in that nearly every player I've gamed with could take a crippling psychosis and integrate it and build a story off of it in a heartbeat.
Makes me count my blessings for the group I have, that's for sure. |
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Jul 25 2011, 03:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-April 08 Member No.: 15,881 |
Last time I used it was against a player that couldn't take the hint that a ROLE playing game meant you had to actually ROLE play, not just nod your head and say "Ok" whenever something happened.
If I'm GMing, I tend to reserve dick moves for when a player needs a...gentile reminder of some very important fact. |
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Jul 25 2011, 03:49 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
Yeah, unfortunately too many people think it's Roll-playing instead of Role-playing.
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Jul 25 2011, 04:08 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I crave any further chances to drive my characters insane.
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Jul 25 2011, 01:01 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Socinus @ Jul 24 2011, 08:42 PM) If I'm GMing, I tend to reserve dick moves for when a player needs a...gentile reminder of some very important fact. As opposed to Jewish Reminders? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jul 25 2011, 05:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-April 08 Member No.: 15,881 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 25 2011, 01:01 PM) As opposed to Jewish Reminders? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) **Headdesk** I HATE making that mistake. They BOTH look fucking correct! |
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Jul 25 2011, 05:44 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 25 2011, 08:01 AM) As opposed to Jewish Reminders? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) A friendly Jewish Reminder, from your Friend, Adam Sandler: Pu on your Yamaka, it's time to celebrate Hanukkah! |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:13 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Socinus @ Jul 25 2011, 10:34 AM) **Headdesk** I HATE making that mistake. They BOTH look fucking correct! Heheheh... No Worries... And I got a good laugh out of it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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