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[Traul]

* All metatypes and special racial options cost a number of karma equal to twice their BP cost

* All metatype bonuses to attributes are applied after attributes are purchased with karma(ie it costs the same for a dwarf to get 8 strength as it costs for a human to get 6, I maintain this rule during play as well.)

That sounds like an extremely good rule. The one bug of RAW karmagen (all versions of it) is that it favors playing metatypes to their weaknesses (troll hacker, ork magician,...). With your rule one does not get punished for trying to play a troll like a troll.

[Irion]

I really do not get it. This houserule negates exactly the hole advantage of Karmagen.

Sorry, but later on with Karma the rules are still different.
So you just encourage people to softmax again, if playing a metatype...
Thats sound somehow silly.

[Traul]

I really do not get it. This houserule negates exactly the hole advantage of Karmagen.

Sorry, but later on with Karma the rules are still different.

That's right, you didn't get it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) He maintains the same rule during play too so there are no weird before/after chargen effects.

This rule solves the point that was left dangling in RAW. Where does the uncertainty about the metatype cost comes from? Higher attribute maxima are much less useful with Karmagen because they are too expensive to reach. So there is no need to make a troll tank pay for his metatype: he will already sink all his karma in his BOD. Then the Troll hacker becomes broken with his 5 BOD and 5 STR for free. Depending on the metatype price you use, either the troll sammy is too weak or the troll hacker is too strong. You cannot balance them both without changing the karma costs of attributes, and this is what this rule does.

[Brainpiercing7.6...]

I really do not get it. This houserule negates exactly the hole advantage of Karmagen.

Sorry, but later on with Karma the rules are still different.
So you just encourage people to softmax again, if playing a metatype...
Thats sound somehow silly.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I think Traul is right.

The metatype bonuses are added after buying points, and the same happens in play. We've also house-ruled that skill mods are treated the same way - as additive modifiers, even when stated otherwise. The only exception is magic loss, which somehow is not an additive modifier. My group wanted it that way, and I didn't argue. The only one who abused it was me, anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) .