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> will be discussed in an Upcominc Sourcebook, ....open magic questions.
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:09 AM
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....i just reread the FAQ Area and saw this line. I am informed about the upcoming sourcebooks mentioned on the catalyst homepage but there is nothing that could fit to this very specific topic. Does, in the meantime, sombody else knows more?
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:10 AM
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Wasn't the FAQ written before all the main writers left? If so, the future sourcebook must be out somewhere in a parallel universe by now.
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:13 AM
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:25 AM
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I heard about payment-problems and IIRC names like Ancient History and Patrick Goodman were mentioned, but i didnīt follow the topic in detail. So nobody is left or what?
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:31 AM
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Robert "Ancient History" Derie wanted to wrap up the Artefacts arch with a book work-titled High Magic which would introduce new and more powerful magics. I suppose this is what this refers to. Since the FAQ is treated by CGL like Errrata are (because it's customer service, not customer rip-off) , it's really that dated. Sorry. Patrick Goodman is still working for them (again, I think), but Derie and many others who wrote Shadowrun before War! left. Jason wanted to fill in with shanghaied Battletech writers and mercenaries he hired, and we got War! and Attitude.

Maybe they still want to publish this book, it's not known. Try asking on their heavily-policed we-all-love-Jason-Hardy forum where Hardy hangs out, he might answer the question in case he is less disorganised than usual.
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:34 AM
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From memory without checking

Ancient History would have been having a very large hand in the High Magic (I think it was called) sourcebook that was to follow the last artifacts book. His leaving the company would imply that things will not role out as they would before.

It is possible there will be a new magic suppliment but then again it could be that the FAQ just hasnt been looked at for a while (kind of like all the Errata)
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:42 AM
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Here's a good timeline and cast of characters.

Really, that link has everything that needs to be said, because anything I would say would be biased.
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:44 AM
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If you are lucky, you might find the answer to your question in this 'Artefacts Unbound' thing that has been anounced a while back.
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post Sep 23 2011, 11:00 AM
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JMH told me it's not gonna happen: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?top...g60505#msg60505
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post Sep 23 2011, 11:09 AM
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I wrote him a PM, maybe i get an answer? Would be great.

.....argh...Makki ninjad me.^^
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post Sep 23 2011, 12:57 PM
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So they're going with the dragonballs instead. Well, that's just like Hardy.
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post Sep 23 2011, 02:29 PM
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Again, Hermit. We are still waiting for you to do better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:16 PM
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Yeah, sorry about that. The FAQ was (finally) posted after I was out the door, probably because I told Jason I'd post it on my own website. For all the errors, trailing answers, what-not: mea culpa. Most of those answers were when freelancers disagreed on some fine point, so instead of making a new rule we put it off until an actual rulebook came out. It got nasty because I had some major disagreements with Aaron, and Running Wild threw some weird shit in there.

The Artifact adventures were not planned out with an actual ending; I was one of the people that argued for a proper ending book since the "Corruption" storyline was pretty much scrapped at that point. So I ended up writing Harlequin's Gambit with Jennifer Harding and Stephen McQuillian, a campaign to tie everything from the artifact adventures together and provide a satisfying (and suitably "big") ending. Along the way we were tying things into the upcoming High Magic sourcebook and Field Guide to Arcanoarcheology web supplement, both by Jennifer Harding and myself. All of that pretty much died. High Magic would have been like War! and Spy Games in concept - supplemental rules (for all levels of magic) and a setting to use them in (Portland, Tir Tairngire). The Field Guide was going to cover the major orgs: Atlantean Foundation, Draco Foundation, Apis Consortium, talislegging, and for rules there were going to be guidelines, rules, and examples for GMs to create their own unique artifacts, and ten sample artifacts based on images culled from existing SR art.

Anywho, my Harlequin's Gambit drafts are out there for anyone interested. At the very least the Cast of Shadows might be handy. I was going to stat Frosty but the project died before I got around to it.
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:22 PM
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such a pity ._.
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 23 2011, 08:16 AM) *
Anywho, my Harlequin's Gambit drafts are out there for anyone interested. At the very least the Cast of Shadows might be handy. I was going to stat Frosty but the project died before I got around to it.


I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found?
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post Sep 23 2011, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 10:45 AM) *
I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found?

I think there's a link to them over at the Gaming Den, in the gigantic shadowrun thread. Also, I think they can be found on Stahlseele(I think)'s resurrected Ancient Files. I don't have time to get you a link right now, sorry. I hope you get a chance to read them, they're a great read and its a shame we won't ever see them published.
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post Sep 23 2011, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 09:45 AM) *
I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found?


Also curious - Bobby's material is basically made of gold to me.

If anyone is willing to dig up a link for the thread, that would be awesome.
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post Sep 24 2011, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 23 2011, 05:31 AM) *
Patrick Goodman is still working for them (again, I think)....

I am, on a limited basis. Basically, if I see something that appeals to me, I bid for it. Since a lot of what I want to do has been largely ignored by everyone else, I typically get the stuff I really want.
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post Sep 24 2011, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Sep 24 2011, 12:43 AM) *
Also curious - Bobby's material is basically made of gold to me.

If anyone is willing to dig up a link for the thread, that would be awesome.

not sure if this is okay on Aunty Ancients Part though . .
http://danvolodar.ru/ancientfiles/index.html
We actually have a Stickied thread where this and the RapidShare RAR of the Ancient files are linked on the GERMAN OFFICIALY SHADOWRUN BOARD BY PEGASUS SPIELE.
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post Sep 25 2011, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 04:29 PM) *
Again, Hermit. We are still waiting for you to do better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

Baiting again, TJ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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the "Corruption" storyline

Primaira Varga [sic]?

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post Sep 25 2011, 12:22 PM
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It was actually planned before Ghost Cartels came out. Anyway, Link to the original thread for the HG stuff for the search-impaired.
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:35 PM
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Sad. You have some good stuff there AH it's a pity the book never got written.

Edit - you have ALOT of good stuff there and it's going to take days to read through it properly.
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post Sep 25 2011, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 25 2011, 03:24 AM) *
Baiting again, TJ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Not really, no. It is just intresting to note the number of people who claim that they can do better than the current Publiushers (and you are not the only one out there Hermit), and yet when push comes to shove, the output is Vaporware. Not a Bait, so much as a Point. It is actually much harder than it looks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 25 2011, 04:01 PM
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Yet as consumers, we don't have to be better at something to see flaws.
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post Sep 25 2011, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity @ Sep 25 2011, 09:01 AM) *
Yet as consumers, we don't have to be better at something to see flaws.


True... But when the comments turn to "I could Do Better than those scrubs" my response is "Fish or cut bait."
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