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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749  |
....i just reread the FAQ Area and saw this line. I am informed about the upcoming sourcebooks mentioned on the catalyst homepage but there is nothing that could fit to this very specific topic. Does, in the meantime, sombody else knows more?
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Sep 23 2011, 10:10 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
Wasn't the FAQ written before all the main writers left? If so, the future sourcebook must be out somewhere in a parallel universe by now.
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Sep 23 2011, 10:13 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......
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Sep 23 2011, 10:25 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
I heard about payment-problems and IIRC names like Ancient History and Patrick Goodman were mentioned, but i didnīt follow the topic in detail. So nobody is left or what?
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Sep 23 2011, 10:31 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Robert "Ancient History" Derie wanted to wrap up the Artefacts arch with a book work-titled High Magic which would introduce new and more powerful magics. I suppose this is what this refers to. Since the FAQ is treated by CGL like Errrata are (because it's customer service, not customer rip-off) , it's really that dated. Sorry. Patrick Goodman is still working for them (again, I think), but Derie and many others who wrote Shadowrun before War! left. Jason wanted to fill in with shanghaied Battletech writers and mercenaries he hired, and we got War! and Attitude.
Maybe they still want to publish this book, it's not known. Try asking on their heavily-policed we-all-love-Jason-Hardy forum where Hardy hangs out, he might answer the question in case he is less disorganised than usual. |
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Sep 23 2011, 10:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 572 Joined: 6-February 09 From: London Uk Member No.: 16,848 |
From memory without checking
Ancient History would have been having a very large hand in the High Magic (I think it was called) sourcebook that was to follow the last artifacts book. His leaving the company would imply that things will not role out as they would before. It is possible there will be a new magic suppliment but then again it could be that the FAQ just hasnt been looked at for a while (kind of like all the Errata) |
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Sep 23 2011, 10:42 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
Here's a good timeline and cast of characters.
Really, that link has everything that needs to be said, because anything I would say would be biased. |
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 Sep 23 2011, 10:44 AM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,128 Joined: 9-December 06 From: In Your Mind Member No.: 10,324 |
If you are lucky, you might find the answer to your question in this 'Artefacts Unbound' thing that has been anounced a while back.
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Sep 23 2011, 11:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 |
JMH told me it's not gonna happen: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?top...g60505#msg60505
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Sep 23 2011, 11:09 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
I wrote him a PM, maybe i get an answer? Would be great.
.....argh...Makki ninjad me.^^ |
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Sep 23 2011, 12:57 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
So they're going with the dragonballs instead. Well, that's just like Hardy.
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Sep 23 2011, 02:29 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Again, Hermit. We are still waiting for you to do better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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Sep 23 2011, 03:16 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Yeah, sorry about that. The FAQ was (finally) posted after I was out the door, probably because I told Jason I'd post it on my own website. For all the errors, trailing answers, what-not: mea culpa. Most of those answers were when freelancers disagreed on some fine point, so instead of making a new rule we put it off until an actual rulebook came out. It got nasty because I had some major disagreements with Aaron, and Running Wild threw some weird shit in there.
The Artifact adventures were not planned out with an actual ending; I was one of the people that argued for a proper ending book since the "Corruption" storyline was pretty much scrapped at that point. So I ended up writing Harlequin's Gambit with Jennifer Harding and Stephen McQuillian, a campaign to tie everything from the artifact adventures together and provide a satisfying (and suitably "big") ending. Along the way we were tying things into the upcoming High Magic sourcebook and Field Guide to Arcanoarcheology web supplement, both by Jennifer Harding and myself. All of that pretty much died. High Magic would have been like War! and Spy Games in concept - supplemental rules (for all levels of magic) and a setting to use them in (Portland, Tir Tairngire). The Field Guide was going to cover the major orgs: Atlantean Foundation, Draco Foundation, Apis Consortium, talislegging, and for rules there were going to be guidelines, rules, and examples for GMs to create their own unique artifacts, and ten sample artifacts based on images culled from existing SR art. Anywho, my Harlequin's Gambit drafts are out there for anyone interested. At the very least the Cast of Shadows might be handy. I was going to stat Frosty but the project died before I got around to it. |
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Sep 23 2011, 03:22 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
such a pity ._.
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Sep 23 2011, 03:45 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 23 2011, 08:16 AM)  Anywho, my Harlequin's Gambit drafts are out there for anyone interested. At the very least the Cast of Shadows might be handy. I was going to stat Frosty but the project died before I got around to it. I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found? |
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Sep 23 2011, 09:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 10:45 AM) I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found? I think there's a link to them over at the Gaming Den, in the gigantic shadowrun thread. Also, I think they can be found on Stahlseele(I think)'s resurrected Ancient Files. I don't have time to get you a link right now, sorry. I hope you get a chance to read them, they're a great read and its a shame we won't ever see them published. |
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Sep 23 2011, 10:43 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 09:45 AM) I don't think I have seen these yet, Ancient History. Where can they be found? Also curious - Bobby's material is basically made of gold to me. If anyone is willing to dig up a link for the thread, that would be awesome. |
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Sep 24 2011, 12:14 AM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 23 2011, 05:31 AM) Patrick Goodman is still working for them (again, I think).... I am, on a limited basis. Basically, if I see something that appeals to me, I bid for it. Since a lot of what I want to do has been largely ignored by everyone else, I typically get the stuff I really want. |
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Sep 24 2011, 01:12 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Udoshi @ Sep 24 2011, 12:43 AM) Also curious - Bobby's material is basically made of gold to me. If anyone is willing to dig up a link for the thread, that would be awesome. not sure if this is okay on Aunty Ancients Part though . . http://danvolodar.ru/ancientfiles/index.html We actually have a Stickied thread where this and the RapidShare RAR of the Ancient files are linked on the GERMAN OFFICIALY SHADOWRUN BOARD BY PEGASUS SPIELE. |
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Sep 25 2011, 10:24 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 04:29 PM) Again, Hermit. We are still waiting for you to do better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Baiting again, TJ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE the "Corruption" storyline Primaira Varga [sic]? |
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Sep 25 2011, 12:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
It was actually planned before Ghost Cartels came out. Anyway, Link to the original thread for the HG stuff for the search-impaired.
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Sep 25 2011, 01:35 PM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Sad. You have some good stuff there AH it's a pity the book never got written.
Edit - you have ALOT of good stuff there and it's going to take days to read through it properly. |
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Sep 25 2011, 03:23 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 25 2011, 03:24 AM) Baiting again, TJ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Not really, no. It is just intresting to note the number of people who claim that they can do better than the current Publiushers (and you are not the only one out there Hermit), and yet when push comes to shove, the output is Vaporware. Not a Bait, so much as a Point. It is actually much harder than it looks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 25 2011, 04:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Yet as consumers, we don't have to be better at something to see flaws.
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Sep 25 2011, 04:13 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Bigity @ Sep 25 2011, 09:01 AM) Yet as consumers, we don't have to be better at something to see flaws. True... But when the comments turn to "I could Do Better than those scrubs" my response is "Fish or cut bait." Don't talk smack unless you can back it up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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