hello smart pants, bye bye privacy |
hello smart pants, bye bye privacy |
Sep 23 2011, 11:15 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
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Sep 23 2011, 11:22 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
Those would be great for people on TextsFromLastNight.
"Used Twitter to find my pants. They were flying from the frat house flagpole." |
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Sep 23 2011, 01:10 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
When they put an RFID tag in my Driver's License, I'm getting this. (I don't carry credit cards.).
And, in the far more likely possibility of a RFID tag in my Passport, this. If I start seeing RFIDs in my clothing, I'm going to start visiting scrap yards and finding that damned electromagnet. |
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Sep 23 2011, 01:32 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
I was at a computer science symposium focusing on computer security a few years back, where they presented this, which is rather shadowrunny...
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Sep 23 2011, 01:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
When they put an RFID tag in my Driver's License, I'm getting this. (I don't carry credit cards.). And, in the far more likely possibility of a RFID tag in my Passport, this. If I start seeing RFIDs in my clothing, I'm going to start visiting scrap yards and finding that damned electromagnet. In addition to the above, buy a RFID tag reader. Our in-office tests of RFID blockers (like the ones you linked) found that, for the most part, they sucked wind. It turned out that it was much more difficult to block the signal than we thought it would be. Getting a complete, no gap, envelope around the tag while being able to access the tag quickly was non-trivial. As with most security, what we found was RFID blockers provided the "illusion of security" rather than actual security. Actual security was not without it's impact on usability. |
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Sep 23 2011, 02:03 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Great. Now I have to wrap the damned thing in tinfoil.
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Sep 23 2011, 02:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Luckily my house wears an alfoil hat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 23 2011, 02:24 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Great. Now I have to wrap the damned thing in tinfoil. Is there any proof that wrapping an RFID tag (which is essentially a loop of copper wire attached to a computer chip that when it receives and electromagnetic source it generates power to do its thing) in foil like that would block the signal? Also: Latest tweets from @myPants: 2:20am, in the dirty clothes pile 2:30am, in the dirty clothes pile 2:40am, in the dirty clothes pile 2:50am, in the dirty clothes pile 3:00am, in the dirty clothes pile 3:10am, in the dirty clothes pile ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Sep 23 2011, 02:58 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Is there any proof that wrapping an RFID tag (which is essentially a loop of copper wire attached to a computer chip that when it receives and electromagnetic source it generates power to do its thing) in foil like that would block the signal? No. I was being sarcastic and referring to Tinfoil Hat-Wearers.No, I get a Passport with a RFID Tag in it, I'm going to see about building an actual Faraday Cage for it. Or, if one's built well enough that I can trust it, buy one. I've kind of burnt and electrocuted myself enough times to think twice about building things when I don't have to. |
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Sep 23 2011, 03:01 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
You can make a tinfoil-ducttape wallet for it. I'm not saying it *works*, just that it's a thing you could make. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 23 2011, 03:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
How about merging smart pants, endowment and the multitool in a single perv thread?
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Sep 23 2011, 04:13 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Sep 23 2011, 08:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
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Sep 23 2011, 10:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 11-June 10 Member No.: 18,694 |
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Sep 23 2011, 11:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 504 Joined: 8-November 05 From: North Vancouver, BC Member No.: 7,936 |
Is there any proof that wrapping an RFID tag (which is essentially a loop of copper wire attached to a computer chip that when it receives and electromagnetic source it generates power to do its thing) in foil like that would block the signal? Your talking about booster bags and the like, and to a degree they do work pretty damn well if lined properly with tinfoil. With that said though, for stopping the transmission of a 'smart' RFID that transmits? No, it is generally thought that the new smarter security system RFIDs used in some stores anti-theft devices aren't fooled by booster bags and other similiar concepts, but their 'stupid' cousins (EAS systems and cheaper passive RFIDs), which don't transmit and merely signal off when going past a checking device (those nice little pillars and the like at store exits.) if they haven't been deactivated. |
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Sep 24 2011, 01:27 AM
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Awakened Master Ninja Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 932 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844 |
If this becomes widespread, I'll just buy a cheap RFID reader off the internet, use it to find out where the tags are in my clothing, snip them out with a little pair of scissors and then stitch them back up. Problem solved, no big fuss.
EDIT: Say, something like this. |
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Sep 24 2011, 01:35 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Pants, yes. Can't do that on the exceptional amounts of information on other RFID stuff that's becoming standard on things like driver's licenses and passports.
And, considering how close I am to the US, this is a concern of mine whenever I want to cross the border. Just who can get what info off of me when I flash my passport to the nice border guard who will hopefully not grab me for the full body cavity search. ... Still better than flying. |
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