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 Sep 24 2011, 05:48 PM
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Dragon  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267  |
Do you cast a shadow when you're in a ruthenium coated suit? In theory you would wouldn't you? It is just glorified camouflage rather than any sort of invisibility...
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Sep 24 2011, 05:52 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Sure, I'd think so. Lasers also don't go through you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I assume that's already factored in, though. That's why it's +X instead of 'you fail to see them'.
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Sep 24 2011, 05:55 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,234 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Yes, you would cast a shadow, as the ruthenium suit isn't bending light around you, it is projecting an image in all directions. Now, is the projection of a light source on one side of the suit strong enough to cancel a shadow on the other side of the suit? I don't think so. What's more, it would distort the angle at which an observer would see the distant light source. From the right angle, the observer could see two light sources.
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Sep 24 2011, 06:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 2-September 11 Member No.: 37,159 |
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 24 2011, 01:55 PM)  Yes, you would cast a shadow, as the ruthenium suit isn't bending light around you, it is projecting an image in all directions. Now, is the projection of a light source on one side of the suit strong enough to cancel a shadow on the other side of the suit? I don't think so. What's more, it would distort the angle at which an observer would see the distant light source. From the right angle, the observer could see two light sources. If it was it would be bright enough that in darkness you'd have a glow like a turned on TV with a black screen |
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Sep 24 2011, 06:42 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 24 2011, 01:52 PM) Sure, I'd think so. Lasers also don't go through you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I assume that's already factored in, though. That's why it's +X instead of 'you fail to see them'. Well, Chameleon suit gives a -4 to perception tests to notice. If it was complete invisibilty, it would give -6, since perception covers more then sight. Or even sight of just the individual. |
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Sep 24 2011, 06:44 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
God help you if you're walking through some sort of fog or smoke while emitting light..
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Sep 24 2011, 06:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 24 2011, 02:44 PM) God help you if you're walking through some sort of fog or smoke while emitting light.. Turn that infiltration into a disco dance-off. It'll all work out in the end |
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Sep 24 2011, 06:54 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Right, HunterHerne, so that missing -2 is things like shadows.
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Sep 24 2011, 07:13 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 24 2011, 02:54 PM) Right, HunterHerne, so that missing -2 is things like shadows. That would be my assumption, yeah. It's a good deal, if one asked me. |
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Sep 24 2011, 08:59 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
This is why you don't RELY on the chameleon suit to hide. You stack as many perception modifiers as you can on top of it.
The guy standing in the middle of a brightly lit room isn't gonna be able to hide well, even with a chameleon suit. The guy gecko gripped to the ceiling in deep shadow wearing a thermal~damped radar~shielded Anti~MAD chameleon suit, however... ~k |
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Sep 24 2011, 09:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 24 2011, 04:59 PM) This is why you don't RELY on the chameleon suit to hide. You stack as many perception modifiers as you can on top of it. The guy standing in the middle of a brightly lit room isn't gonna be able to hide well, even with a chameleon suit. The guy gecko gripped to the ceiling in deep shadow wearing a thermal~damped radar~shielded Anti~MAD chameleon suit, however... ~k This is very true. It's so very much easier to inflict perception penalties then increase your infiltration pool, anyway. |
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Sep 24 2011, 09:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
Double post.
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Sep 25 2011, 10:07 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
When asking questions about chameleon suits, remember that it's just adaptive camouflage, it's like having a ghili suit perfectly made for the exact spot you're in at any given moment without the weight.
So yes, you cast a shadow, but generally only if people are looking behind you relative to the source of light. |
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