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  Oct 4 2011, 09:09 PM
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Running Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,128 Joined: 9-December 06 From: In Your Mind Member No.: 10,324  |
Well, if I can be a brainscientist, you sure can be a rocketsurgeon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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Oct 4 2011, 09:59 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 4 2011, 08:21 AM)  EDIT: BTW, go ahead and ask them about Steve Jackson Games. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Man I -have- that game sitting in a drawer. It even has a note to all secret service personell in the manual. Something about not being able to hack computers by rolling dice. |
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Oct 4 2011, 10:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 963 Joined: 15-February 11 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 21,972 |
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 01:09 PM) Well, if I can be a brainscientist, you sure can be a rocketsurgeon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) For you guys: Rocket Surgeon [ Spoiler ] I don't know how to spoiler tag things, so I apologize. Also, The character's on Omae. |
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Oct 4 2011, 10:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (ggodo @ Oct 5 2011, 12:05 AM) I don't know how to spoiler tag things, so I apologize. [/spoiler] |
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Oct 4 2011, 11:12 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 02:00 PM) a little care doesn´t hurt either. I'm still lost on where this line is that you're drawing, given your name, the previous existing content of Shadowrun, etc. |
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Oct 4 2011, 11:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 4 2011, 03:59 PM) Man I -have- that game sitting in a drawer. It even has a note to all secret service personell in the manual. Something about not being able to hack computers by rolling dice. I still have the T-Shirt they gave me after the trial. "Don't tell me no lies and keep your hands to yourself" |
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Oct 5 2011, 12:18 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 09:59 AM) I am not really offended, it´s more that it strikes me as odd and I was wondering if anyone had the same association. I don´t mind when such a conection is intended either (Humanis or Alamos, i.e.), but when it is unintended, it just looks slopy. Why? Again you show a complete and utter lack of common sense, irony, or just a over abundance of hypocrisy. But lets put it this way, given a large enough audience you will never be able to produce a work of fiction that doesn't offend someone. Hell half the time your work of non-fiction will offend someone. Your beef is that two letters entirely appropriate to be used in English context as a characters initials shouldn't be used because they were the initials of a group using a completely different language. My two bits? RPG's might not be for you, they'll occasionally cross into territories that make you uncomfortable. |
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Oct 5 2011, 12:53 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 4 2011, 04:59 PM) Man I -have- that game sitting in a drawer. It even has a note to all secret service personell in the manual. Something about not being able to hack computers by rolling dice. Been looking for it for years...
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 Oct 5 2011, 02:13 PM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,128 Joined: 9-December 06 From: In Your Mind Member No.: 10,324 |
QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Oct 5 2011, 01:18 AM) My two bits? RPG's might not be for you, they'll occasionally cross into territories that make you uncomfortable. Dude, I am very relaxed about it. Just struck me as odd, as posted before, that´s all. |
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Oct 5 2011, 02:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 5 2011, 09:13 AM) Dude, I am very relaxed about it. QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 07:19 AM) Who in thair right mind... Now I can't figure out where you draw the line at relaxed, offensive, or irony. |
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Oct 5 2011, 02:48 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 5 2011, 09:29 AM) Now I can't figure out where you draw the line at relaxed, offensive, or irony. Hipster?
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 Oct 5 2011, 03:15 PM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,128 Joined: 9-December 06 From: In Your Mind Member No.: 10,324 |
Well, ok, what ever. certainly didn´t mean to be offensive
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Oct 5 2011, 04:01 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
So I cracked open Street Legends, after I finished vomiting up the stench of Mary Sue, recycled plots and reprints I came across the section in question. In the context my initial impression of "classic Man in Black" is Johnny Cash.
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Oct 5 2011, 04:20 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,088 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM) Waffen SS units were often non-Germans, some were even conscripts as the war progressed So? In case you didn't get that memo, the NS world view was about races, not what you passport said about nationality. Therefore German Jews = bad, Croatian Ustaša = Good. QUOTE The performance sucked at first, but markedly improved. Right, after many of the officers with some semblance of throughout training had gotten themselves killed and had to be replaced by those who made up their lack of tactical thinking with even more bravado, performance obviously improved... Or do you mean behind the front, where they obviously got more effective? QUOTE You'd be hard pressed to find any German officers at least not verbally touting the Nazi party line during the war (the bulk of it anyway). There is a difference between toeing the party line and being a member of the ideological elite cadre. The (W) SS was at all times planned and implemented as the latter and never just a military unit. PS: You might also want to think about the supposed difference between the Division Totenkopf of the Waffen-SS and the Waffen-SS again... |
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Oct 5 2011, 05:57 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
IIRC: The German SS units were considered elite units and very dependable. But that was typical of the units raised from the 1930's to somewhere in 1943. It was not so much their training, but the fact that they typically had a high ratio of veterens, party loyalists and got first dibbs on new tanks and equipment. At the end of the war though, they tried recruiting just about anyone they thought could fight. Training for these units was non-existant, and equipment consisted of mostly small arms and panzerfausts.
Back OT--No I don't think it has any reference to the SS. |
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Oct 6 2011, 03:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 5-September 03 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Member No.: 5,585 |
Sheesh - we use it at work to donate a Stainless Steel surface - in terms of SR's timeline, it's like calling a group of protagonists "Roundheads". Only historians would get the gist.
-Tir |
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Oct 6 2011, 11:22 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 02:19 PM) Did anyone else feel a bad vibe, when they read Serrin Shamander's description in Street Legends? Who in thair right mind will call a a secret bloodmage's elite watchers (dressed in black no less) SS watchers?! Maybe I am oversensetized to this issue, like the ppl complaining about the fleshfinder crap in WAR (don't mention it further, this is not another WAR thread), then again, maybe I am not.. Serrin Shamandar is a blood mage?!? |
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Oct 6 2011, 01:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
You know I totally missed that.
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Oct 7 2011, 01:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 963 Joined: 15-February 11 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 21,972 |
Me too, I didn't get blood magic from his thing, insane, yes. Blood Mage, no.
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Oct 7 2011, 02:05 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
When did he get insane? Last I recall he was off with his reincarnated girlfriend from Cape Town.
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Oct 7 2011, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 963 Joined: 15-February 11 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 21,972 |
Well, The blurb in Street Legends implied some Multiple Personality issues, with the other being the sadistic magical equivalent to the hulk. Also, he's a sorta father figure to Netcat.
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Oct 7 2011, 02:39 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 6 2011, 09:05 PM) When did he get insane? Last I recall he was off with his reincarnated girlfriend from Cape Town. When her plane went down during Crash 2.0 with no survivors. Damned souls just can't catch a break!QUOTE (ggodo @ Oct 6 2011, 09:19 PM) Well, The blurb in Street Legends implied some Multiple Personality issues, with the other being the sadistic magical equivalent to the hulk. Also, he's a sorta father figure to Netcat. Wonder how far that's going to go. She should be getting some Shadowy Father Figure stuff from Slamm-0!s Dad, after all.And Slamm-0! is probably still getting the, "WHY THE FRAG DIDN'T YOU WRAP IT UP???" whenever Grandpa has to change a diaper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Oct 7 2011, 07:36 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (ggodo @ Oct 7 2011, 04:19 AM) Well, The blurb in Street Legends implied some Multiple Personality issues, with the other being the sadistic magical equivalent to the hulk. Also, he's a sorta father figure to Netcat. Well, those make sense. |
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