Elemental Strike? WTF? Options

[Miri]

Just make sure it is a military tank and not a liquid filled storage tank. We had a GM running us in a Star Wars game and the fight was taking place in a munitions factory. GM said there was three tanks along one wall and all the players figured.. "Ok a tankity tank tank shoots things with a big gun". So during the fight the Force user says "I'ma grab that tank and chuck it at the bad guy!" GM blinked, said roll it, saw the level of success was quite high then turns to me and says "Ok.. roll fortitude to not get turned into a Popsicle from the super cold liquid that was in the tank."

[Neraph]

(Hell, even dragons get the shaft: regardless of their strength, their melee DV is 10!)

(Which is why most of them know an Elemental Aura spell and hit people with their tails instead...)

[DamienKnight]

(Which is why most of them know an Elemental Aura spell and hit people with their tails instead...)

I wonder if the game designers had a hard cap of 10DV on melee in mind when they set that?

A troll cyber adept can easily get 17+ DV with his bare hands... poor dragons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

With that massive strength, I would think Dragons would want to grapple! Hard time imagining anyone trying to wrestle with a creature 40x their size.

[Irion]

I guess it was at some point intendet as 10 + 1/2 strength like everything else. But I guessed they realised how bad natural weapons for spirits would become...

[Miri]

I wonder if the game designers had a hard cap of 10DV on melee in mind when they set that?

A troll cyber adept can easily get 17+ DV with his bare hands... poor dragons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

With that massive strength, I would think Dragons would want to grapple! Hard time imagining anyone trying to wrestle with a creature 40x their size.

Instead of a grapple.. I'd say its more like pinning them down with the sharp end of a claw.

[Dakka Dakka]

A troll cyber adept can easily get 17+ DV with his bare hands... poor dragons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Only if they fight with fang and claw. Once they start making fists or using the rest of the body, you are in trouble. Even the weakest dragon does 15S AP 0. Western Dragons do 20S, the rest 18S.

I guess it was at some point intendet as 10 + 1/2 strength like everything else. But I guessed they realised how bad natural weapons for spirits would become...

Like the dragon wouldn't Stunball them to death, since they are all magicians. Also by RAW (unless you read the mitigating Running Wild) Natural Attacks are critter powers and as such bypass ItNW.

And Grappling will probably result in fine rest mist, with a damage of 30-40S.

[Draco18s]

Instead of a grapple.. I'd say its more like pinning them down with the sharp end of a claw.

God damn it. Now you're going to make me scour the internet for a scene out of Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern (that mediocre 90s video game) where the main character's dragon stands on a guy.

And Grappling will probably result in fine rest mist, with a damage of 30-40S.

It's called FLRM. Fine Lingering Red Mist.

[Miri]

God damn it. Now you're going to make me scour the internet for a scene out of Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern (that mediocre 90s video game) where the main character's dragon stands on a guy.

*blink* They made a videogame of McCaffery's books?? Why did I never hear of that?

[Draco18s]

*blink* They made a videogame of McCaffery's books?? Why did I never hear of that?

Because it was pretty shitty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Riders...onicles_of_Pern

I never finished the game due to a bug in the engine slash unlisted key in the manual. There was a generic "do action" key (i.e. a use key) that would activate things--like stealth--depending on what actions were possible in that location.

There was one spot that had both the triggers for Stealth and Activate Lever, but only the Stealth one showed up on the player's screen. There was an unlisted key that allowed you to switch between various actions (i.e. swap from the available, but unwanted Stealth action to the available, but invisible Use action). But I didn't find out about this key until some years later, by that point no longer having my save data, or the desire to play through some 15 hours of mediocre game with flimsy plot and bad voice acting.