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post Nov 9 2011, 06:09 PM
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I can get various types of swords at my FLGS/Army Surplus Store, which stocks authentic Nepal Kukris as well as other types of blades that they have for years. Just never saw much use in one.

A bit of imagination... *Slasher Smile*
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post Nov 9 2011, 07:27 PM
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In NY, sword canes aren't allowed to be shipped to here at all. To have a sword cane in ones possession in public is considered an offense for carrying a concealed weapon.

However, if you are taking martial arts, you can carry swords, spears, batons, & etc... in a weapon case or some sort of cloth tube/bag & transport the weapon(s) to/from your dojo/training center.
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post Nov 11 2011, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Nov 9 2011, 02:27 PM) *
In NY, sword canes aren't allowed to be shipped to here at all. To have a sword cane in ones possession in public is considered an offense for carrying a concealed weapon.


It's also a felony charge in NY to carry any concealed weapon over 6ft in length.
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (Tech_Rat @ Nov 11 2011, 04:21 AM) *
It's also a felony charge in NY to carry any concealed weapon over 6ft in length.
So, Shaq can't wear a duster?

'Cause I'm 6'1", and I have no idea how to conceal a 6' weapon on myself... And if I can't figure it out...
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post Nov 12 2011, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 11 2011, 09:36 AM) *
So, Shaq can't wear a duster?

'Cause I'm 6'1", and I have no idea how to conceal a 6' weapon on myself... And if I can't figure it out...


Speaking of dusters, I need to get mine re-oiled. The wax wore out during the summer with all those rain storms...
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post Nov 12 2011, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (Lansdren @ Nov 9 2011, 09:00 AM) *
As for swords in the UK, there are allowances made for blunted weapons for practise I cant wear mine on my hip as I would like but I dont get any trouble carrying them from practise when they are in a kit bag.


Well, that's not so bad. A historical longsword wasn't really that sharp anyway, and you can totally crack bones with a blunt longsword properly wielded. Not speaking of using the crossguard like a pickaxe if you really wanted to punch a hole in a skull.

Furthermore, even a blunt tip can penetrate, given enough force.

I mean, if a group of youths attempted to happy slap you, but you were able to get a blunt longsword out, you could really go to town on their skulls and make them bleed all over the place.

EDIT: And since you're going to be severely legally punished anyway just for defending yourself, you might as well go all the way and execute the survivors, right? At least that way your sacrifice would be producing a net social good. That's kind of the perverse logic you end up with the UK justice system, at least based on what I hear about it and how it seems hell bent on penalizing people for defending themselves above and beyond what the people who actually commit the crimes in the first place are penalized.

EDIT 2: Recently, a friend of mine acquired an authentic Japanese gunto. We took it out and attacked some cuts of pork and so on with it. It's not terribly sharp, but it was still capable of causing good cutting trauma. It's all in your technique, I guess.
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post Nov 14 2011, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 12 2011, 02:30 AM) *
Well, that's not so bad. A historical longsword wasn't really that sharp anyway, and you can totally crack bones with a blunt longsword properly wielded. Not speaking of using the crossguard like a pickaxe if you really wanted to punch a hole in a skull.

Furthermore, even a blunt tip can penetrate, given enough force.

I mean, if a group of youths attempted to happy slap you, but you were able to get a blunt longsword out, you could really go to town on their skulls and make them bleed all over the place.

EDIT: And since you're going to be severely legally punished anyway just for defending yourself, you might as well go all the way and execute the survivors, right? At least that way your sacrifice would be producing a net social good. That's kind of the perverse logic you end up with the UK justice system, at least based on what I hear about it and how it seems hell bent on penalizing people for defending themselves above and beyond what the people who actually commit the crimes in the first place are penalized.

EDIT 2: Recently, a friend of mine acquired an authentic Japanese gunto. We took it out and attacked some cuts of pork and so on with it. It's not terribly sharp, but it was still capable of causing good cutting trauma. It's all in your technique, I guess.



Generally speaking if its gone as bad as I actually think I need to pull something out of the kit bag I'm just going for one of my axes. Swords are fun but nothing worrys people more then a axe swinging for them in my experiance. Takes me ages to teach the newbies not to flinch when I swing for them.

Small update to my sword cane is nearly finished its now a sword staff more or les. No historical value just abit of fun.

I do wish the rules were abit less stupid, a sword cane might be a weapon but more peopel get killed by kitchen knives every day then would be killed with a sword cane in a year.

But then I am biased.
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post Nov 14 2011, 05:45 PM
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It's based on the appearance of doing something, not actually DOING something.

That and kitchen knives are tools which are used most often legitimately, whereas a sword cane is a weapon. It's a weapon that would be mostly used in defense, but still a weapon. Just like Civilians can't get Stun Guns or Tasers in Canada. Or certain types of pepper spray.

Ironically, the strongest kind (Bear-Strength) are legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 14 2011, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Lansdren @ Nov 14 2011, 01:34 PM) *
Generally speaking if its gone as bad as I actually think I need to pull something out of the kit bag I'm just going for one of my axes. Swords are fun but nothing worrys people more then a axe swinging for them in my experiance. Takes me ages to teach the newbies not to flinch when I swing for them.

Small update to my sword cane is nearly finished its now a sword staff more or les. No historical value just abit of fun.

I do wish the rules were abit less stupid, a sword cane might be a weapon but more peopel get killed by kitchen knives every day then would be killed with a sword cane in a year.

But then I am biased.


Axes may have more intimidation value, but a longsword can outmanuver an axe any day. Also, if we are imagining being attacked by a bunch of chavs, you can't "bind" with an axe. "The bind overcomes all obstacles." I figure a longsword or spear would be the way to go.

This line of discussion calls to mind Lichtenauer: "With your overconfidence be moderate, do not at first try four or six."

Ha ha!

Anyway, good luck and have fun with your new blade!
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post Nov 26 2011, 11:33 PM
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It was a big hit at JimCon! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 28 2011, 06:50 PM
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You should have tried to get one of these:
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post Nov 28 2011, 06:59 PM
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If a Sword Cane won't fly in Canada, do you think that would???
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*shrugs* probably still easier to get i guess ^^
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post Nov 28 2011, 10:04 PM
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If there's one in Canada, maybe. Getting it through Customs? *Shakes Head*

Friends of mine had a TENT caught up in Customs for Three Months because it was a "Military Item".
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post Nov 28 2011, 10:12 PM
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Oh CanRay, you simultaneously make me want to move to Canada and stay in the Tir.
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post Nov 28 2011, 10:47 PM
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The tent is even more hilarious as they're the Army Surplus store in the city, can get Nepalese Kukris through customs with no issues whatsoever.
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post Nov 29 2011, 08:50 PM
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Distribute an AR to every Canadian, so they don't have to worry about tents at the border any more.

A chicken in every pot, and a military pattern rifle leaning on the wall next to it!
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post Nov 29 2011, 09:52 PM
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Throw the training to use it responsibly as well, and I'm game.
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post Dec 30 2011, 03:36 PM
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Got a second cane, this one for winter. It's got a nice folding steel pick for handling Ice.

Now to only find a Bartitsu teacher that is in Manitoba, and not Saskatchewan.
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