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Apr 21 2004, 08:17 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
APDS and AV should work just fine against Flesh-Forms, which are most likely what we'll be encountering if they're breeding them into paranormal critters like Young says. :)
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Apr 21 2004, 08:20 PM
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#152
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
Flesh-forms won't kill us as fast as true forms (probably) so I'm wagering about three dozen force 8-10 true form spirits. That way, if it's less, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
It'd be nice if we didn't have to deal with the insects at all... 25k isn't much for that kind of risk. |
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Apr 21 2004, 08:21 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,048 Joined: 20-March 02 Member No.: 2,422 |
Yes..that's what I was about to say...we really only need data...not dead spirits...
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Apr 21 2004, 08:22 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
You'll be dealing with them, like it or not. Thats just a bonus for being thorough.
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Apr 21 2004, 08:25 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Bah. Cowards, the lot of ya. Good luck holding Scratch back if this bug rumor turns out to be true... there's no way he's going to let those perversions of nature get out and infect metahuman hosts again. If he finds any, they're going down. <insert stubborn smiley face here>
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Apr 21 2004, 08:26 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
@ Dash,
Hey, I am doing the negottiating and I am the night elf. ACL is the Satyr. |
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Apr 21 2004, 08:27 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
I PMed that to him. :) He probably got confused by the smell. <wafts his hand a bit in Shadow's general direction>
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Apr 21 2004, 08:55 PM
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#158
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Just so you guys know that I am not being a dork, Shadow has a dependent that he takes his obligation too very seriously. And if he takes a job where he thinks the odds of him coming back are little to none, he makes sure that she is going to be setup.
Miss Young seems nice and honest and trustworthy. But we only have her word for it that she works for the Draco foundation. Which doesn't really mean anything anyways cause they are just another corp. So he is going to treat this job, and her like any other shadowrun. . |
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Apr 21 2004, 08:58 PM
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#159
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GM of DOOM! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 20-March 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 4,296 |
Perhaps someone can enlighten me a bit on exactly what the big deal is with flesh form bug spirits? From everything I've read, they're not particularly more dangerous then your average runner with an assualt rifle. They don't have natural armor, which means they're suseptible to gunfire, and unless the host they inhabit was a prime runner before, they don't exactly become combat gods.
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Apr 21 2004, 09:04 PM
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#160
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
The problem with bug spirits Fenris isn't that there tough. It's that they are bugs, and you never just run into one damn bug, you run into hundreds.
To quote Hicks. "I say we dust off, and nuke the place from orbit, it's the only way to be sure." |
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Apr 21 2004, 09:12 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
I dunno about you, but there's quite a few paranormal critters out there that are a pain in the ass with an animal intelligence alone. Crank one up to human-intelligence or higher as a flesh-form in addition to the other perks they receive on top of that, and we're in for a real party.
Let's see. A Force 6 Mantid-Fenris Wolf flesh-form female will have Body 16 with 6 points of armor (not sure if its hardened or not), Quickness 11 (x4 running speed), Strength 12, Charisma 6, Intelligence 6, Willpower 6, Reaction 12, and an Initiative of 22+1D6. Powers include Animal Control (Mantids), Compulsion, Enhanced Sense (Smell), Fear, Share Minds, Summoning, and a good chance of having a few of the Fenris Wolf's powers on top of that (let's say just Enhanced Strength and Magical Guard). Note the human-level intelligence behind all of that in particular. And that doesn't include any cyberware Ares may have installed, either. |
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Apr 21 2004, 09:15 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
I didn't think flesh forms got hardened armor? In any case, spirit armor != hardened armor. Thank God for that.
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Apr 21 2004, 09:16 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Yeah, I was hoping I edited that before anyone read it. :) I'll check to see what kind of armor it is in a moment.
Edit: It's just natural armor as far as I can tell. |
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Apr 21 2004, 09:24 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
A plea to you guys, please include your character name with every post that you can. There are a lot of us and some of us (mainly me) have a lot of trouble keeping screen names and character names straight.
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Apr 21 2004, 09:42 PM
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Yeah, I saw "shadow" and read "Scratch." My bad. |
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Apr 21 2004, 09:46 PM
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
That's the one. Stupid acronyms never made any sense to the lysdexic amoung us :P Anyway, I think you have to actually install the biofeedback as a hardware component, IIRC, which puts it in the cyberterminal construction chapter of Matrix. Concidering my funds and what we got, I don't think I can afford it alone, but it might be time to see how well this team is willing to work together ;) If anyone wants to look up the basics go for it. If not, I'll be back at home with my books tomorrow afternoon and I'll know everything then from the horses mouth, so to speak. |
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Apr 21 2004, 09:56 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
ICCM Biofeedback Filter:
Design test mod +1 Software Rating MPCP, Multiplier 4 Cook test: yes Installation time: (MPCPx2) days Installation test: Computer B/R 4 and Computer (cybernetics) (MPCP rating) Test Parts: 35 :nuyen: x MPCP rating + 1000 Tools: Microtronics shop In other words, it'll take a long time to do. |
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Apr 21 2004, 10:05 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
@ TKG to help,
Shadow = Shadow Grendel = Grendel TKG = Warpath Blitz = Silk Buddha = Onna Dash = Father ACL = Scratch |
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Apr 21 2004, 10:07 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
And...
Fenris = Ayohuhisdi |
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Apr 21 2004, 10:13 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Oops, sorry Fenris.
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Apr 21 2004, 10:51 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,048 Joined: 20-March 02 Member No.: 2,422 |
LOL
Poor Fenris.... |
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Apr 21 2004, 11:01 PM
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
I'm going to stick with the concept that orange text is spoken in Japanese.
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Apr 21 2004, 11:02 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
My eyes are already beginning to weep. :)
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Apr 21 2004, 11:15 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,048 Joined: 20-March 02 Member No.: 2,422 |
why is that?
BTW...anyone else on AIM or Yahoo? |
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Apr 21 2004, 11:18 PM
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GM of DOOM! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 20-March 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 4,296 |
If I read the stuff on the flesh forms right, they don't get any bonuses for merging with the host on phyiscal stats, and mental is just equal to the force of the spirit. So an average human merged with a Force 6 (non-mantid) spirit would have Bod 9, Str 9, Quick 9, Int 6, Will 6, Cha 6, no armor besides what he puts on, no special powers or anything else. One for one, I'd be more worried about a troll, truthfully. Seems like it's more numbers then anything else we need to worry about. AIM: Stormsbane Yahoo: Quantumthoughts MSN: Ganelganwn |
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