 Wal-Mart shoots for Extrateritoriality? |
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 Apr 5 2004, 08:59 PM
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Hey guys, been awhile. Thought you might be interested http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/05/national/05WALM.html Especially the following part
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Apr 5 2004, 09:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 16-March 04 From: BC Canada Member No.: 6,165 |
I see Shadowrun as coming closer and closer to reality...well, except for the awakening, but hey, you never know.
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Apr 5 2004, 09:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Kill Em All Member No.: 2,018 |
And what is the Dumpshock Password for NYTimes.com?
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Apr 5 2004, 10:11 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
ID: Dumpshock
Password: Forum (no "s") |
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Apr 5 2004, 10:20 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
This is not a new principle. Disney world in florida behaves that way now. FutureWorld™.
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Apr 5 2004, 10:48 PM
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What was the name of the Disney town mentioned in Corporate Shadowfiles? Celebration, or something? Kissimee, maybe?
Not that company towns are a new thing. They've been around since the at least the Gold Rush, and became quite prevalent with the explosion of industrial mining and later petroleum drilling (Standard Oil towns, for instance). And of course, there are the railroad towns. Hell, there's a town in my state that is trying to get sold to the DHS or DOE. |
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Apr 5 2004, 10:54 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
This isn't really extraterritoriality. There are a lot of towns in which most of the commercial property is owned by a single large company, and more prevalently, there are a lot of corporate complexes that aren't in a town. Some places are "unincorporated," which is a bit of a misnomer in this case. It basicly means the area is not part of a town, so no local laws, no local taxes, but no local services like police and fire department either. Such places are still subject to state, federal, and county laws.
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Apr 6 2004, 04:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Gulf Coast Member No.: 6,111 |
I definitely agree with that. By the way, vitus979, you beat me to the punch on this story. Afterall, if this becomes more common, I don't see it as much of a stretch for the corps of today to litigate their way to extrateritoriality of one sort or another. - theartthief |
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Apr 6 2004, 04:54 AM
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Celebration is the name of Disney's town. It is a creepy, creepy place...it's meant to be an exact replica of a 1950s suburban town, such as Levittown, Long Island.
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Apr 6 2004, 05:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Houston Member No.: 6,197 |
So what does that mean for us, then? A bright new age when Dumpshock finally becomes Shadowlands and we're all swapping stories of why it was that we were hanging by stealth line outside that Wal-Mart exec's office window at their skyraker at 2 AM on a Thursday morning?
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Apr 6 2004, 01:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 16-March 04 From: BC Canada Member No.: 6,165 |
Well here's to hoping. I've always been the adventurous type anyway :D
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Apr 6 2004, 01:47 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
And here I am stuck in the Morgue with Otomo and the rest of the Singapore Shadowlands
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Apr 6 2004, 03:33 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
I still want my pointy ears in 7 3/4 years or I'm gonna be very upset with FASA for getting my hopes up...
And none of this "you have to be born an elf" crap, because I could be a spike baby with the Human Looking edge!! The Abstruse One |
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Apr 6 2004, 03:42 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
You have almond shaped eyes? people in clost proximity think your're not a human? Wow... I'd have mixed feelings about that :D
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Apr 6 2004, 07:30 PM
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Meh, I'd be fine with not becoming an elf. Spellslinging on the other hand......
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Apr 6 2004, 07:40 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Sorry, but rules are clear: you can only eliminate Flaws with Karma. So if you're a spike baby with the Human Looking edge, you're gonna stay foreover human looking. But you'd still get elven longevity and ease to obtain Tir Tairngire nationality. |
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Apr 6 2004, 08:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,912 |
to deschain:
is your name the last name of the guy i think it is? :D on topic: wal-mart is the devil. I honestly believe they're a good example of a mid level megacorp. |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Apr 7 2004, 12:59 AM
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They're Stuffer Shack--a wholy owned subsidiary of Aztechnology. |
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Apr 7 2004, 03:27 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Disney in their florida complex already has it, they have their own police force.They do not have a penal system but other than that, you are looking at a coporate enclave. The police might have more of a threat if they weren't winnie the Pooh and Piglet but that's their choice.(just kidding on that, they are real cops.)
Walmart may be able to ram through a referendum that lets them set up a complex but the town could still limit them considerably through controll of the streets around the complex,"sorry, no trucks allowed, you'll have to find another way to get the merchandise in" |
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Apr 7 2004, 03:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Houston Member No.: 6,197 |
That's okay. Wal-Mart could always airlift in merchandise using their Osprey II's. Or, you know, a sudden wave of mysterious assassinations at all levels of the involved government structure would occur until a change in policy was affected.
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Apr 7 2004, 04:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 5,835 |
Not to mention the blood magic ...
:grinbig: Seriously tho, I loved the parallel between WalMart and StufferShack!!! I had never EVER thought of it this way, but it seems to fit EXTREMELY well. |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Apr 7 2004, 05:06 AM
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Yeah, who'd have thought Wal-Mart would become the archetype of Stuffer Shack after Sam Walton died and the company just exploded.
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Apr 7 2004, 05:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Houston Member No.: 6,197 |
Wasn't there a huge to-do in the Walton family after Sam died about who'd take over?
Sounds like Shiawase to me. Now if only Sam's ghost still held 10% stock in the corporation and a seat on the board... |
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Apr 7 2004, 11:03 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Didn't go through. "Initiative 04-A was defeated by a vote of 7,049 to 4,575."
Meanwhile, Ashcroft attempts to outlaw softcore porn. I'd rather take extraterritorial corporations. Then at least you could go masturbate in the closest Wal-Mart when they outlaw that. |
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Apr 7 2004, 12:39 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
in wholly unrelated news, i've been awake too long. skimming the topic list, i swear i saw "Wal-mart shoots Gay and Lesbian runners".
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