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post Jan 2 2012, 02:49 PM
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Since we have corporate land and corporate citizenship, does, say, Mitsuhama field Olympic teams?

The idea of the Shiawase team trotting out on the field, waving the corporate logo... it feels *right*.
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post Jan 2 2012, 03:46 PM
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This is an awesome idea. I can't believe it hasn't been brought up yet, but I have to believe the answer is yes.
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post Jan 2 2012, 04:32 PM
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According to Shadowbeat the Olympics was opened to multinational corporate teams in 2044 and winning a medal is worth big corp prestige. around a fifth of all medals are won by corporate ' Amateur ' athletes.
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post Jan 2 2012, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Sticks @ Jan 2 2012, 10:32 AM) *
According to Shadowbeat the Olympics was opened to multinational corporate teams in 2044 and winning a medal is worth big corp prestige. around a fifth of all medals are won by corporate ' Amateur ' athletes.


Remind me to kiss my copy of Shadowbeat again.

SUCH a good book.
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post Jan 2 2012, 06:56 PM
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SotA 2064 has an Olympic Games update, including corporations (Yamatetsu) vying for the privilege of hosting them.
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post Jan 2 2012, 08:59 PM
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Don't see why not. The AAA corps are effectively countries in their own right in this game setting. Also, in skimming through Spy Games there's talk about the 2072 Winter Olympics being in Denver, with notes about Aztechnology trying to sneak their athletes into the games and Shiawase sponsoring a Shinto mission beforehand.
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post Jan 2 2012, 09:29 PM
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We've already confirmed they can field teams but the issue becomes would would want to? I mena from a 3rd world nation they certainly provide a source of training on a par with 1st world powers but would an American or Frenchman or German be as willing to compete for their job as they could their ocuntry. You can be fired from Novatech, you cannot be 'fired' from being a Frenchman or a German.
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post Jan 2 2012, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 2 2012, 10:29 PM) *
...but would an American or Frenchman or German be as willing to compete for their job as they could their ocuntry. You can be fired from Novatech, you cannot be 'fired' from being a Frenchman or a German.

The NFL, NASCAR, NBA, Formula One, and NHL are all corporate organizations made up of professional athletes, whose numbers completely dwarf the national teams fielded for the Olympics. Nationalism isn't the only reason people compete: Ares would have no difficulty finding someone willing to run for them in exchange for money, never mind the satisfaction of competition.
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post Jan 2 2012, 10:45 PM
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That sums it up pretty well. The Olympics are a great way to garner some positive publicity, not to mention product placement opportunities. And that's just the legitimate side of things....
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post Jan 2 2012, 10:51 PM
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That would be an interesting run. "My client would like you to secure positions inside of the corporation and then try out for the Olympics. Each of you have been slated for the event(s) you would be suited best for. See attached files."

The shooting events would be INTENSE between the security teams.
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post Jan 2 2012, 10:54 PM
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It'd be a great way to scope out what kind of talent a corporation could produce as well.
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post Jan 3 2012, 12:54 AM
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HUGE PR move, you gotta think.

"Mr Rosa was a SINless child deep in the Redmond barrens when we found him. To Seattle, he was just another SINless waste of life. But here at Shiawase, we respect every member of our family and we know that each member brings a unique set of tools to the corporation. We gave him a chance ... he gave us a gold medal. Now, he's on teh cover of our magazines, on our news broadcasts, and starring in a new sim from our studio. Mr Rosa started with little more than the shirt on his back and now? Now he's a multimillionaire. Join the Shiawase family, and you might be the next Mr Rosa."
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post Jan 3 2012, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jan 3 2012, 01:54 AM) *
HUGE PR move, you gotta think.

"Mr Rosa was a SINless child deep in the Redmond barrens when we found him. To Seattle, he was just another SINless waste of life. But here at Shiawase, we respect every member of our family and we know that each member brings a unique set of tools to the corporation. We gave him a chance ... he gave us a gold medal. Now, he's on teh cover of our magazines, on our news broadcasts, and starring in a new sim from our studio. Mr Rosa started with little more than the shirt on his back and now? Now he's a multimillionaire. Join the Shiawase family, and you might be the next Mr Rosa."

That actually made me want to join the company.
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post Jan 3 2012, 01:42 AM
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And in terms of views-per-nuyen, you can't put your logo anywhere more profitable than on the jersey [or fender] of the professional athlete of your choice. For, say, $10-15 million, you can sponsor a NASCAR team for a season, which means your logo on the car, on the driver's jumpsuit, on the hat worn by the driver during weekday interviews, your company name being said every time your car leads a lap or passes or gets passed in a notable way, and on race day, it'll be seen by 8+ million pairs of eyeballs, dozens of times. If you figure your logo is seen or your company name mentioned a mere 10 times during the race [an absurdly low estimate], that's 2,880,000,000 exposures for less than $15 million, or an astonishing 200-ish exposures per dollar. And that figure is likely off by an order of magnitude or more.

If corporations were allowed into the Olympics - as they are in Shadowrun - it would be big business, bigger business than the Olympics already are. Over 200 million people watched NBC's Olympic coverage in Beijing for more than six minutes: that's a lot of exposures for a comparatively small investment.
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post Jan 3 2012, 03:42 AM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Jan 2 2012, 09:12 PM) *
That actually made me want to join the company.
That tells me just how much they want to use people for as much potential as possible for themselves.
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post Jan 3 2012, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 3 2012, 04:42 AM) *
That tells me just how much they want to use people for as much potential as possible for themselves.

That as well, but being the kind of guy I am (on three medical research call lists) I'm OK with that.
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post Jan 3 2012, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (Sticks @ Jan 2 2012, 09:32 AM) *
According to Shadowbeat the Olympics was opened to multinational corporate teams in 2044 and winning a medal is worth big corp prestige. around a fifth of all medals are won by corporate ' Amateur ' athletes.

"Once again, for the 7th time running, Team Ares sweeps all the shooting events!"
"Well Bob, did they win any other medals?"
"No, they didn't complete in any other events."
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post Jan 3 2012, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 2 2012, 06:42 PM) *
For, say, $10-15 million, you can sponsor a NASCAR team for a season, which means your logo on the car, on the driver's jumpsuit, on the hat worn by the driver during weekday interviews, your company name being said every time your car leads a lap or passes or gets passed in a notable way, and on race day, it'll be seen by 8+ million pairs of eyeballs, dozens of times.

I think it is 10-20 million for a primary sponsor these days.

I've seen figures that a top team spends >400 million, but that is across their multiple drivers and the 20 or so cars they have.

How do you make a small fortune in racing? Start with a large fortune. ...
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post Jan 3 2012, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 3 2012, 02:24 AM) *
How do you make a small fortune in racing? Start with a large fortune. ...


Yacht racing, too. "A boat is a hole in the water into which the owner tries to fill with money."

Hmmm... that makes me wonder: how do you think yacht racing is doing in the 6th World? It's a rich man's sport (and there's lots of rich execs that would love to have something to boast about) but at the same time, between the ecoterrorists, shadowrunners, and the Awakened aquatic life that think humans taste great, there's definitely an element of risk that wasn't there in the 5th.
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post Jan 3 2012, 07:44 AM
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Yacht racing, too. "A boat is a hole in the water into which the owner tries to fill with money."
Tell that to the owners and operators of the "Bluenose". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 3 2012, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 3 2012, 07:24 AM) *
I think it is 10-20 million for a primary sponsor these days.

A la carte, yes, but if you buy for the whole season, you can usually get it down around the figures I was quoting.
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post Jan 3 2012, 05:59 PM
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Can someone sponsor me? I'm pretty cheap, even if I'm also useless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This is a fun topic-so how do people feel about corporate sponsored teams outside the AAA corporations. AA's? A's? Where do you see the lines being drawn?
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post Jan 3 2012, 06:57 PM
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Sometimes I doubt things like NASCAR advertising work. Then I see the people at Target.
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post Jan 3 2012, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (Paul @ Jan 3 2012, 06:59 PM) *
Can someone sponsor me? I'm pretty cheap, even if I'm also useless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This is a fun topic-so how do people feel about corporate sponsored teams outside the AAA corporations. AA's? A's? Where do you see the lines being drawn?


It depends on whether augmentation (and adepts) are allowed.

If augmentations are allowed, then smaller biotech firms could use the Olympics to show off. Likewise, you could have adept societies competing against each other.

Sure, it violates the "pure human" idea, but if they're barred from the Olympics, they might set up a rival event, perhaps Ultimate Olympics, where they use superhuman performance to make the Olympics look cute but small and limited, kind of like how ice hockey cramps the attempts of figure skating to look manly...
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post Jan 3 2012, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Jan 3 2012, 02:57 PM) *
Sometimes I doubt things like NASCAR advertising work. Then I see the people at Target.
My character, Nas, drove the 711 Stuffer Shack car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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