Fencing things in the Shadows Options

[Seven Deadly SIN...]

Just wondering how most GM's work with fencing equipment. My team and I recently came across a shipment of stuff which included 12 Ingram Super Mach 100's which are 850 nuyen, Availibility 9 and street index 3. How much should we expect to get through our normal fixer/arms dealer contacts?

[Nikoli]

I believe 30% of street indexed price is base, with negotioations altering that based on GM discretion, but usually never above 50% of street index price.

[Seven Deadly SIN...]

Hmmm, Maybe we should invest in a gun shop......

[Nikoli]

Pawn shops work well as well, since they tend to pay even less.

[blakkie]

[Zazen]

In my game it is 30% of the base price. Street index is for black market professionals to pay the rent, IMO.

[Connor]

But you could always do a small little deal with your local gang looking for some firepower... Just don't let the syndicates know about it...heh.

[Lindt]

Screw that, find a local syndicate and sell it to them! Provided its not something from another group like that.

[mfb]

i can't understand why people don't apply street index when selling loot. you're still selling it on the street; that's what street index is. fixers already get a 70% return on their investment; i so no reason to jack this up even higher. otherwise, nobody would ever sell anything--better to keep it around just in case it's needed.

[blakkie]

[mfb]

i dunno about you, but i consider selling something for 30% of what i'd pay for it pretty close to "rock bottom".

[Siege]

Or break the weapons down, drop them in long-term storage for a "just in case" scenario.

You might consider exploring a barter system with interested parties.

-Siege

[FlakJacket]

Trades, barter or sale can also lead to little adventures as well. Nothing like going out to some meet with Ivan the Russian to swap a bag full of guns for a bag full of cash or cred at the handover. :)

[blakkie]

[Seven Deadly SIN...]

Hell my character is a gun bunny so if we don't get a descent amount i'll keep all the firepower for myself! :cyber:

[Veracusse]

Keeping them for yourself is the best option if you don't want to sell them for rock bottom prices. But what happens when your characters pad is full of guns, illegally acquired guns too. And suppose that some federal law peopls show up to your place and want to look around, if you already moved the guns on the street it would be difficult for them to trace them to you. But if they are lying around somewhere easy to find you might end up in some trouble. My point is, having a lot of hot items lying around in bulk is not very smart, and you will atract a lot of unwanted attention, especially when you try and sell them on the streets yourself.

Likewise, the bigger no-no is cutting out the middle man. And this time the middle man is your fixer, or fence. People who work the streets don't like to loose money, or be cut out of deals. So there will be repercussions comming to you from that end as well, especially if you sell in bulk.

Anyway, the items were acquird illegally and at relatively no monetary cost to you, at least that is what the other end will suppose. So 30% of market price is considered rather fair to them. Plus who in their right mind is going to buy guns on the street from some wannabe fixer, when they can go throught their propper channels and buy the guns from the real fixer. The latter offers a bit more insurance and less risk. Very important on the streets.

Veracusse

[Smiley]

[Moon-Hawk]

Actually, when you put it that way, it sounds almost generous.
You're getting about a G, as you say, for something that the fixer could use one of his many rating 8 credsticks to go down to the store and buy for only 1500 :nuyen: .

[Smiley]

I guess we just have different definitions of generous. But i see your point.

[Nikoli]

Remember that oft ignored skill Negotiation, time to dust that off for teh fence. 30% is rock bottom, but it can be raised.

[Smiley]

In little 5% increments, depending on successes, etc.

[Siege]

Every little bit helps.

Although you'd better be pretty skilled at negotiating -- because the fixer will be and bargaining goes both ways.

-Siege

[Spark]

Well, if it's big enough, say a vehicle or a minigun etc. 5% ain't exactly bad is it. However I see your poin. What I usually do is keep anything rare and then give them dirt cheap to my important contacts, builds favorable attitudes dontcha know.

[Smiley]

It does help to grease the wheels, but all i'm saying is that it would be nice to be able to decide to give the item in question away for dirt cheap prices and not have the dirt cheap prices thrust upon me.