IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> RL ortho skin!, still looks painfull.
OneTrikPony
post Jan 30 2012, 09:09 PM
Post #1


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 500
Joined: 4-September 06
From: Salt Lake UT
Member No.: 9,299



Hey. They finally made ortho skin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/201...s-a-bullet.html

The vid makes it very apparent that ortho skin can only do so much. Looks like you end up with a wound cavity even if it doesn't pierce the skin. OUCH!

It's awesome that the silk was made from transgenic goats in my home town, Go UTES!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Draco18s
post Jan 30 2012, 09:16 PM
Post #2


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,289
Joined: 2-October 08
Member No.: 16,392



Think it's been posted before, or at least, I've seen a (similar) video and such.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Christian Lafay
post Jan 30 2012, 10:15 PM
Post #3


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 673
Joined: 9-May 08
Member No.: 15,965



It has and I still wonder how effective this would be. While the bullet SHOULDN'T penetrate the skin you still have a high velocity impact going in as far as your skin gives way, before tumbling out. But then I wonder how the spider silk skin can be seemless. Imagine you have a skin graft of this stuff all the way around your forearm. The first shot in the video makes me think the bullet would go through your arm, the skin would rip at the seems, and then peel from your body as a now caped bullet flies out of your arm. I hope this technology goes somewhere but as for now it still worries me. Wonder if it will be able to be combined with that skin graft spray gun...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Draco18s
post Jan 31 2012, 12:16 AM
Post #4


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,289
Joined: 2-October 08
Member No.: 16,392



This probably going to be one of those things where it keeps you from dying, and you can get rushed to a hospital, and be OK, rather than outright dead.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Starmage21
post Jan 31 2012, 01:19 AM
Post #5


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 745
Joined: 13-April 07
From: Houston, Texas
Member No.: 11,448



QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 30 2012, 08:16 PM) *
This probably going to be one of those things where it keeps you from dying, and you can get rushed to a hospital, and be OK, rather than outright dead.


IRL bullets dont kill instantly. As a general rule of thumb, if you dont bleed out in 5 minutes you'll be fine. Even headshots arent even 50% lethal, thats why the gangsters of the 20s shot people in the head TWICE.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
noonesshowmonkey
post Jan 31 2012, 02:14 AM
Post #6


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 393
Joined: 2-July 07
Member No.: 12,125



QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Jan 30 2012, 08:19 PM) *
IRL bullets dont kill instantly. As a general rule of thumb, if you dont bleed out in 5 minutes you'll be fine. Even headshots arent even 50% lethal, thats why the gangsters of the 20s shot people in the head TWICE.


And once in the throat / heart.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Draco18s
post Jan 31 2012, 02:30 AM
Post #7


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,289
Joined: 2-October 08
Member No.: 16,392



QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Jan 30 2012, 08:19 PM) *
IRL bullets dont kill instantly. As a general rule of thumb, if you dont bleed out in 5 minutes you'll be fine. Even headshots arent even 50% lethal, thats why the gangsters of the 20s shot people in the head TWICE.


So it reduces it to 25% lethal. I fail to see how my comment was irrelevant. 9.9
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Method
post Jan 31 2012, 04:34 AM
Post #8


Street Doc
*******

Group: Admin
Posts: 3,508
Joined: 2-March 04
From: Neverwhere
Member No.: 6,114



QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Jan 30 2012, 07:19 PM) *
IRL bullets dont kill instantly. As a general rule of thumb, if you dont bleed out in 5 minutes you'll be fine.
If that's the case, then there is quite a spectrum of conditions that qualify as "fine" most of which I would not enjoy.

---------------------

The elasticity of spider silk has always been a barrier to its use in ballistic armor. Stopping a bullet isnt much good if the vest just deforms through your body. In effect this stuff would just turn a gun shot wound from penetrating trauma to blunt trauma. I think you would see the kinds of injury patterns we see with high energy blunt mechanisms like car crashes or falls. Bleeding from a shattered liver is still bleeding.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Wounded Ronin
post Jan 31 2012, 03:04 PM
Post #9


Great Dragon
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 6,640
Joined: 6-June 04
Member No.: 6,383



QUOTE (OneTrikPony @ Jan 30 2012, 05:09 PM) *
Hey. They finally made ortho skin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/201...s-a-bullet.html

The vid makes it very apparent that ortho skin can only do so much. Looks like you end up with a wound cavity even if it doesn't pierce the skin. OUCH!

It's awesome that the silk was made from transgenic goats in my home town, Go UTES!


It only stops cold loaded rounds? So it's helpful if you ever plan on getting shot at by USPSA players running race guns and down loaded handloads and LRN bullets.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
OneTrikPony
post Jan 31 2012, 08:32 PM
Post #10


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 500
Joined: 4-September 06
From: Salt Lake UT
Member No.: 9,299



Yep it's just like SR orthoskin. It only helps if you're allready wearing a vest.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Daylen
post Jan 31 2012, 09:46 PM
Post #11


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,424
Joined: 7-December 09
From: Freedonia
Member No.: 17,952



QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Jan 30 2012, 11:15 PM) *
It has and I still wonder how effective this would be. While the bullet SHOULDN'T penetrate the skin you still have a high velocity impact going in as far as your skin gives way, before tumbling out. But then I wonder how the spider silk skin can be seemless. Imagine you have a skin graft of this stuff all the way around your forearm. The first shot in the video makes me think the bullet would go through your arm, the skin would rip at the seems, and then peel from your body as a now caped bullet flies out of your arm. I hope this technology goes somewhere but as for now it still worries me. Wonder if it will be able to be combined with that skin graft spray gun...

Did you read it? It only stopped half power pistol bullets, full power loads went right through.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Christian Lafay
post Feb 1 2012, 12:17 AM
Post #12


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 673
Joined: 9-May 08
Member No.: 15,965



QUOTE (Daylen @ Jan 31 2012, 10:46 PM) *
Did you read it? It only stopped half power pistol bullets, full power loads went right through.

Aye, but I'm thinking down the road when it can actually be applied. And buckshot.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Daylen
post Feb 1 2012, 04:50 AM
Post #13


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,424
Joined: 7-December 09
From: Freedonia
Member No.: 17,952



QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Feb 1 2012, 12:17 AM) *
Aye, but I'm thinking down the road when it can actually be applied. And buckshot.


Buckshot penetrates better than most people think at proper distances. Of course, as others have reminded us, Orthoskin is not body armor and is only useful when body armor is used.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 26th April 2024 - 02:30 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.