 Are metavariants steeply overpriced?, Or is it just me? |
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 Feb 14 2012, 01:52 PM
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Feb 14 2012, 02:37 PM)  Combat-face....^^ Ok. I have a human one in SR3 O.o |
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Feb 14 2012, 01:55 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Basically it is a face with combat abilities, but i was thinking of a guy that is yelling at the enemies instead of shooting. ^^ Was a funny picture in my mind.^^
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Feb 14 2012, 02:04 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
There's an Adept-Power for that . .
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Feb 14 2012, 03:29 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 14 2012, 09:04 AM) There's an Adept-Power for that . . Two, probably. |
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Feb 14 2012, 03:46 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Maybe it's hitting people with your face. Ouch.
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Feb 14 2012, 03:48 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Feb 14 2012, 09:55 AM) Basically it is a face with combat abilities, but i was thinking of a guy that is yelling at the enemies instead of shooting. ^^ Was a funny picture in my mind.^^ "How the hell can Intimidate be a combat skill?" *One 'Run Later* "You made those security guards surrender without even a shot fired. The way they were crying, I almost felt sorry for them."
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Feb 14 2012, 04:40 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: 27-July 10 Member No.: 18,860 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 14 2012, 04:48 PM) "How the hell can Intimidate be a combat skill?" *One 'Run Later* "You made those security guards surrender without even a shot fired. The way they were crying, I almost felt sorry for them." "Almost? So I have failed..." |
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Feb 14 2012, 08:57 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
Am I the only one who just assumed that the writers made night ones cost so much more than they're worth in order to fuck with people who wanted to play "a Drow" in Shadowrun?
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Feb 14 2012, 09:02 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
And if that's the case, i am okay with that . .
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Feb 14 2012, 09:03 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Me Too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 14 2012, 09:04 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Freaking drow.
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Feb 14 2012, 09:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
I play a night-one in one of my groups, but we just ignore the "nocturnal" quality, because it is utterly stupid.
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Feb 14 2012, 09:34 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Feb 14 2012, 02:09 PM) I play a night-one in one of my groups, but we just ignore the "nocturnal" quality, because it is utterly stupid. Then you are not really playing a Night One are you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Feb 14 2012, 09:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
sure i am ^^
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Feb 15 2012, 04:00 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 14 2012, 12:57 PM) Am I the only one who just assumed that the writers made wakyambi/night ones cost so much more than they're worth in order to fuck with people who wanted to play "a Drow" in Shadowrun? Night ones are the combo furry/Drow elves, and xapiri thepe are the one-with-nature hippie elves. I said something similar half-jokingly on an earlier thread - that they made these gimped metavariants with wangsty backgrounds for the Stormwind-style "roleplayers", and the gnomes, fomori, and ogres for the powergamers. Wakyambi aren't one of the options I consider bad, though. They get two of the more useful 5-point advantages for an extra 5 points, so if you give them -5 for their distinctive appearance, they about break even with normal elves. |
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Feb 15 2012, 09:14 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Ogres for powergamers? What abilities do they have? I only remember "ogre-stomach".
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Feb 15 2012, 11:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
yeah, for free.
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Feb 15 2012, 11:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 14-July 10 Member No.: 18,824 |
Not quite. Ogres, like every other metavariant, get saddled with a Distinctive Style flaw that they don't get any points for. Personally, I'd rather be a normal ork and not draw nearly as much attention than have an extra tough stomach.
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Feb 15 2012, 11:57 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: 27-July 10 Member No.: 18,860 |
@Machiavelli
They are orcs, just better. One additional merit and a bit better looking... And 20% down on lifestyle cost and a bit resistance to ingested toxins ain't bad. |
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Feb 15 2012, 02:55 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I wouldn't call them Distinctive, no.
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Feb 15 2012, 06:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 15 2012, 06:55 AM) I wouldn't call them Distinctive, no. I remember RC specifically saying that "all advanced character options come with the distinctive style quality for freesies." GM call, natch. |
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Feb 15 2012, 06:50 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
That's true, when you put it that way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I meant that an ogre on the street isn't very distinctive; I agree that (AFAIK) the rules say everything gets that.
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Feb 15 2012, 06:54 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: 27-July 10 Member No.: 18,860 |
Again it depends, Ogers in France or Germany would really not have much of a problem.
Maybe in seattle it is a bit worse for them... |
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Feb 16 2012, 02:00 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
QUOTE (unsound @ Feb 15 2012, 04:57 AM) Not quite. Ogres, like every other metavariant, get saddled with a Distinctive Style flaw that they don't get any points for. Personally, I'd rather be a normal ork and not draw nearly as much attention than have an extra tough stomach. I dunno about you, but I once made an ogre samurai with a digestive expansion and vegsin. Took human looking and bought off the automatic distinctive style. 50% off lifestyle owns so hard its not funny. |
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Feb 16 2012, 02:30 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
As always, clearly abusive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Food shouldn't be 50% of your lifestyle even if you stopped eating entirely.
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