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post Feb 9 2012, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Feb 9 2012, 10:17 AM) *
I... may or may not have in Missions additionally put the Horseman inside a van, which at one point was inside an aircraft.

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I will say the GM inexplicably ruled that he could still hit me inside the van inside the Horseman with pistols. I'm not sure how, that game was kinda full of on-the-fly houserules. I can't say I'm a big fan of games where the rules change without warning every five minutes.



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post Feb 9 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 9 2012, 10:04 AM) *
You're only a Called Shot/Longshot away.


Though it is highly unlikely the pistol would actually harm the person wearing armor, riding in the Rigger Cocoon, in the Horseman, in the Van. Unless of course you use the .88 Magnum. Then, all bets are offf. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 9 2012, 05:23 PM
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@Tymeaus Jalynsfein
It depends on how you handle armor penetration.
I am not quite sure, but I think you could read it so every single barrier would be subject to it.
So if you have a heavy pistol with anti-vehicle ammunition there is not much left of 3 barriers contributing 8 armor, each...
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post Feb 9 2012, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Irion @ Feb 9 2012, 10:23 AM) *
@Tymeaus Jalynsfein
It depends on how you handle armor penetration.
I am not quite sure, but I think you could read it so every single barrier would be subject to it.
So if you have a heavy pistol with anti-vehicle ammunition there is not much left of 3 barriers contributing 8 armor, each...


Why do you assume only 8 Armor on the vehicles?

Especially since the Rigger Cocoon gives 20 Armor, the Horseman (IIRC) had 16 and the Van likely has at least that many. Assumming you apply each armor seperately for penetration, Any one of these will bounce a Heavy Pistol with AV ammo unless the Attacker got at least 6 Hits, and you would need 10+ hits to penetrate the Cocoon. And that is assuming you apply armor seperately, and in sequence. Not really going to happen. Remember, the DV has to be higher than the Modified Armor to even penetrate (Since Vehicle armor is Hardened).
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post Feb 9 2012, 05:45 PM
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I was just pointing out how interpretating the rules like that would change the meaning of three sperated barriers. (Of course to get through those a pistol is a bit weak)
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post Feb 9 2012, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (Irion @ Feb 9 2012, 10:45 AM) *
I was just pointing out how interpretating the rules like that would change the meaning of three sperated barriers. (Of course to get through those a pistol is a bit weak)


Indeed... Of course, any remaining Armor would still add to the Character's soak pool, which gets really ugly at that point.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:03 PM
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@Tymeaus Jalynsfein
True, you would need to up the power. A barret with -11 AP might look better.
True, it might still not be enough, but considering the other way...

So if you have 3 barriers with a raiting of 20 each, the barret would reduce it to 9 each. Which would mean it could possibly hit through all the barriers. (True it would need around 7 hits to do so (or a called shot and 3 hits).
But compared to applying AP once...
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:03 PM
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Just use S&S. Snrk.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 9 2012, 11:03 AM) *
Just use S&S. Snrk.


Snrk? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 9 2012, 07:37 PM
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Gauss Cannon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Always worth a (very expensive) shot. Every Team should have one, preferably drone-mounted (for better energy supply).
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post Feb 9 2012, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 9 2012, 02:58 PM) *
Popping his wrist spurs underwater? Trying to pronounce "Stark" underwater? Trying to make the sound of a stifled snigger?
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post Feb 9 2012, 08:17 PM
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The interaction effects of S&S with barriers always merits a stifled snigger, yes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 9 2012, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 9 2012, 01:17 PM) *
The interaction effects of S&S with barriers always merits a stifled snigger, yes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Heh... Got it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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