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Apr 14 2004, 04:16 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729 |
Good posts. One thing that would really help me out is if your put your gear requests in the same format that Cardboard did. It just makes it easier for me to organize things.
And Callidus is right...it's going to be pretty cold. Winter gear is a must. |
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Apr 14 2004, 04:40 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
Camo Suits are nice and padded, would wearing that along with form-fitting keep us warm?
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Apr 14 2004, 04:45 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
oh, and just in case it wasn't clear, Michael called a team meeting to start at 1530 at his apartment.
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Apr 14 2004, 04:59 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Don't be a slacker, Grey. Get friggin' Insulation. :P
[Personal Gear] FN Five-seveN Smart (.328 ADVAT) Tactical Pistol [*] Personalized Grip, Quick-Draw Holster, Clips (x2) Handful of Blank OMCs Lockpick Gun (Rating 10) Microtronics Toolkit P.A.V.L.O.V. Proxy Emitters (x5) Sequencer (Rating 10) Spetsnaz Entrenching Tool, Sharpened & Dikoted (Treat as Tomahawk) Spetsnaz Uniform Ultrasound Emitter (Rating 10) The following is Nikolai's request form, OOC style since I have no clue what it would look like formally. :D [Weapons & Ammunition] FN P-90 Submachine Gun [*] H&K Leather Quick-Draw Harness, Heavy Barrel, Personalized Grip, [*] Smartlink-2 (.328 ADVAT), Suppressor (Quick-Release), Underbarrel Weight, [*] Spare Clips (x4) FN MK46 Minimi Machine Gun [*] Sling, Heavy Barrel, Gas-Vent IV, Carswell M443 20mm Grenade Launcher w/ Indirect Fire Add-On, [*] XM1822 Grenade Launcer Adapter, Smartlink-2 (.328 ADVAT), Personalized Grip, Shock Pads, [*] Spare Clips (x6), Box Magazine (x1) Survival Knife, Dikoted Ammunition [*] APRO and Subsonic Frangible for the P-90; Light Armor Piercing for the 5-7; SLAP for the Minimi Grenades [*] IPE Concussion (x1), Tear Gas (x1) Mini-Grenades [*] White Phosphorous ATAT (x5) [Armor] Camouflage Full Suit [*] Urban/Arctic Reversible Patterns and Ruthenium w/ 12 Scanners; 2 spare battery cells [*] Chemical Seal 4, Thermal Dampening 4 [*] Helmet with the works Form-Fitting Body Armor (Full Body) [*] Insulation 4, Nonconductive 1 [Drones & Vehicles] Ares Cloudship (Series 41 Mini-Blimp) [*] Remote-Control Encryption 10 and BattleTac IVIS/FDDM 10 [*] SunCell Power [*] Ruthenium Polymers (including external mounts) with 12 Scanners [*] Radar-Absorbant Materials 3 [*] Pericles Sensors upgrade [+9 Shotgun Microphone and +9 Optical Magnification with Infrared and Low-Light only] [*] Drone Pilot 5 Enhancement [*] Autosoft Interpretation System with Clearsight 5, Electronic Warfare 5, and Sharpshooter 5 Autosofts [*] External Cargo Mount with Anti-Aircraft Micro-Remote Turret and 0.2 CF Ammo Bin [*] Barret M89, Silenced [*] SLAP (Heavy Sniper Rifle) Ammo x100, Subsonic Polymer Tip Match Ammo x100 [*] Properly-Threateded Barrels for each [*] Smartlink-2 Integration [*] ECM/ECCM/Retransmission Suite in External Mount [*] Chances are you guys issued my old baby to one of your Firewatch teams. Again. So if you can just have the parts and tools available, I'll put her back together again. Ares Guardian (x2) [*] Standard accessories except as noted below [*] Drone Pilot 5 Upgrade [*] Engine Customization 1 (Load) [*] Remote-Control Encryption Module 10 [*] BattleTac IVIS/FDDM Modules 10 [*] Fixed Hardpoint instead of Turret [*] FN M240G MAG MMG w/ Underbarrel Grenade Launcher [*] Vehicle Gyroscopic Stabilizers [*] 10,000 rounds of SLAP Ammo; 10 IPE White Phosphorous Mini-Grenades [*] Smartlink-2 Integration [*] Autosoft Interpretation System [*] Ruthenium Polymer w/ 12 Scanners [*] Radar-Absorbant Materials 3 [*] SunCell Power Ford Explorer SUVs [*] Rigger Adaptation [*] Off-Road Suspension [*] Note: Other drones requested depending upon our game plan... [Miscellaneous] Ammo Pouches (x2) Equipment Pouches, Large (x4) Load-Bearing Harness Maglock Passkey (Rating 10) Military Rucksack, Small [*] Quick-Release Harness Mountaineering Kit w/ Stealth Line and Silenced Grapple Gun Rations & Survival Gear [*] Canteen & Mess Kit [*] Field Rations (Self-Heating) [*] Medkit (Rating 10) [*] Survival Kit [*] Thermal Sleeping Bag [*] Note: The rucksack, pouches, and harnesses should also have ruthenium treatments, but no scanners (as they'd "plug in" to his fatigues). |
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Apr 14 2004, 05:29 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
*Does the P-90 dance*
:) I'll have a gear request for you today Ronin. |
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Apr 14 2004, 05:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Everyone: Don't forget to request a Personal Comm Unit (Rating 10) if you don't have one already. :)
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Apr 14 2004, 05:38 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
I've got rating 8 pre-installed in my leg, that good enough?
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Apr 14 2004, 05:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
You're the boss, but the lowest rating unit is the one the entire network uses. :)
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Apr 14 2004, 05:42 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
Good point. I can always replace the one in my leg with the new 10. :)
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Apr 14 2004, 05:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 931 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere near Jupiter orbit Member No.: 1,668 |
Hmm Gear..... g'ah *8->
Personnal: MGL-6 Ares Alpha Battletac receiver unit Savior Medkit and refill Bioculars with thermo and lowlight Requests: Thermal smoke minigrens for alpha and mgl-6 (approx 20 for each) Concussion minigrens for alpha and mgl-6 (approx 20 for each) Neurostun minigrens for alpha and mgl-6 (approx 20 for each) Tactical Comms rating 10 FFBA Full Suit with Insulation 4 Sec Helmet with Ultrasound, Thermo, HUD, Optic Mag 3 Arctic Camo Full Suit with Thermal Dampening 5 Urban Camo Full Suit with Thermal Dampening 5 Chemsuit rating 10 2 clips of APDS for the alpha 5 clips of regular for the alpha Military sytle Bergen (backpack) Military sytle webbing (the belt, ammo pouches, shoulder straps, etc) Thermal Blanket (3 of the silver space blanket style) Thermal sleeping bag Two man pop up tent (you know the ones that self erect) 20 Trauma patches 20 Stim patches rating 6 20 Antidote patches rating 8 30 days of survival rations Survival kit Canteen and mess kit Respirator Civilian clothes appropriate to the local area and winter version Franchi SPAS-22 40 Slug Shells 20 Shock Lock Shells Requests for equipment to be available on site but not to be taken immediately Barret Model 121 and 60 rounds of ammunition (for if the excretement REALLY hits the rotating air mover and she will label this bit with that sort of comment) IWS Multi-Launcher 8 Anti-Personnel Rockets 8 Anti-Vehicluar Rockets 4 Zapper Rockets Think that pretty much covers it..... I'll add stuff if and when I think of it *8-> |
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Apr 14 2004, 06:12 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,116 Joined: 5-October 03 From: True North Strong and Free Member No.: 5,686 |
Grey, what languages does your character know?
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Apr 14 2004, 06:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729 |
I've been going over the equipment list, and I noticed a few things.
When out in the field, only half the team will be sporting Assault/Battle Rifles. While that sort of weapon system may not be your character's forte, it's still a great weapon to have if you run into unexpected contact with the enemy and they are between 50 and 200 meters. And if you guys end up having to do any house/room clearing, you are also underequipped. No shotguns, and the Assault rifles carried by Mike and Maxwell are way to large for CQB. And despite what Shadowrun rules tell you, pistols are NOT ideal weapons for CQB. Now, don't take this as a demand that you guys change your gear lists/requests. This is just me throwing in my tactical two cents. |
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Apr 14 2004, 06:37 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
On top of these, I have a Mnemonic Enhancer, giving me an extra 3 dice to any language roll.
English [6] Arabic [3] Azeri [3] Hebrew [3] Hindi [3] Latin [3] Russian [3] Turkish [3] |
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Apr 14 2004, 06:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
So is the P-90 and 5-7 good enough for what you're saying, Ronin, or should I get a full-sized assault rifle, too?
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Apr 14 2004, 06:47 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Ideally everyone should have three weapon systems. A pistol for extreme defense, a SMG for CQB and street fighting, and an AR for when were out in the bush.
You don't have to carry them all, but you should have access to them. @ Clock, A P-90 is a great weapon out to about 100 meters. And a fantastic weapon FOR CQB, but in a ranged fire fight 200+ meters it isn't very effective. |
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Apr 14 2004, 06:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Okay, thanks. :) My gear list was edited to slip that in, then. Figured I'd take advantage of my Gunnery and Strength scores a bit on that one. :D
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Apr 14 2004, 06:55 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729 |
Shadow is right. Although a Carbine (M4 or M23) works really well in the Assault Rifle AND CQB roles.
I also noticed we have no real machine gunner. While that's not necessary, it's always a good idea to have someone who can put 200 rounds down range for suppressive fire if necessary. Again, you don't have to request that now, but its not wise to go out into the field without at least one machinegun. |
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Apr 14 2004, 06:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729 |
Hehe...seems I spoke too soon. Looks like Dragos will be pulling MachineGun duty.
Good. You guys won't regret it. |
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Apr 14 2004, 07:07 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
<pauses> Well if that's not ominous, I dunno what is.
You guys think I should request one or two Knight Errant Peep-a-Lot (Lone Star Strato-9 variant) drones with an MMG for backup, just in case? We don't have to take them with us each time, but it'd be nice to know that they were around if we needed them for a specific sub-mission. Oh, and just to let you all know, Pavlov is a prototype robotic reconnaissance drone in the form of a realistic (deadly realistic) Siberian Huskey. He was acquired on one of our earlier missions, and he's been with us ever since Nikolai was able to get him back in working order after... a rather nasty "accident." For all intents and purposes, he has a personafix that causes him to behave like a loyal guarddog to Nikolai first, then the rest of the team second. So feel free to treat him as such if you like. :) |
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Apr 14 2004, 07:12 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
Yes on the drone request.
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Apr 14 2004, 07:23 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Did a bit better and requested an Ares Guardian. Higher signature and nice armor. Should come in more handy for us if/when the shit hits the fan. :)
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Apr 14 2004, 07:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 931 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere near Jupiter orbit Member No.: 1,668 |
Hmm, had forgotten about CQB.... I'd better add Franchi SPAS-22, 40 slug shells, and 20 Shock Lock rounds to the request list..... I'll edit the early post to add them in....
And I'd defineately second Grey on the Strato-9 type drones..... they're so useful, it's just a shame you can't get an electric one with suncell without some serious modding.... *8-> |
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Apr 14 2004, 07:58 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729 |
Here's a note about ammo. I don't like the ammo types in SR3 or CC. For variant ammo, use the ammunition rules on Raygun's site.
Also, ammo is not freely interchangeable between weapons of the same type like in SR3. Again, refer to Raygun's site for specifics. Basically, a rifle that fires 7.62x51mm is ONLY going to be able to fire that type of ammo. |
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Apr 14 2004, 08:56 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Ok here is everything I could think of. I decided since Ares was willing to play nice with the equipment then DT won't take any of his own gear.
@ Clockwork, can your drones read a Laser Designator? If not let me know. Downtown equipment req. Asteriks denote custom gear. Pistols: USP Compact (9mm) - Laser Sight - 12 Mags BAL (Match) USP Match (.40 S&S) -Laser Sight -Low Light Flash light -12 Mags PIE (+1 power) -12 Mags BAL (Match) SMG: P-90 (5.7mm) -Laser sight (low powered) -Sound Suppressor -Shock Pads -Under Barrel weight -10 Mags PIE (+1 power) -10 Mags BAL (Match) -5 Mags APDS AR: G36A3C (5.56mm NATO) -Laser Sight -Shock Pads -Custom grip -Imp. Gasvent 3 -Under Barrel weight -10 Mags PIE (+1 power) -10 Mags BAL (Match) -10 Mags SLAP Sniper: MSG90A1 (7.62 NATO) -3X Thermal/lowlight scope w/anti reflective coating -Shock Pads -Sound Suppressor -All Ammo in optional 20 round detachable boxes -20 Mags +3 Power, Incendiary, x0.5 Armor Rating, AV -20 Mags BAL (Match) -20 Mags SLAP Armor: (3) FFBA lvl 3 Concealability: 12 Ballistic: 4 Impact: 1-Thermal Dampening 4 *(3) Secure Jacket (OD Green) Conceal ability: 9 Ballistic: 5 Impact: 3 -Fire Resistance 4 -Chem Sealed 4 -Built in Battle Tac receiver -Built in Comm. unit 10 *(2) Cammo Full suit (1 of each, Night, Desert, Urban) Ballistic: 5 Impact: 3-Fire Resistance 4 -Chem Sealed 4 -Built in Battle Tac receiver -Built in Comm. unit 10 *(2) Ghillie suit (W/ Ruthium Polymer and 4 sensors) +8 TN -Thermal Dampening lvl 6 Equipment: 3 months worth of the following: Boots, underwear, a rucksack, kit bag, boonie hat, LBV, ammo pouches, carrying harness for the P-90, slings etc. Holsters both concealable and full for the pistols. Gear: Laser Designator - hand held Binoculars 50X LL + Thermal Subdermal Microphone (throat) and Earbug Nav Dat GPS Insulated gloves Wire cutters Micro Flare Launcher -10 Flares Micro Survival kit Chem Mask lvl 10 Survival knife/bayonet Misc: 6 smoke grenades (thermal) white 6 smoke grenades (thermal) Blue This post has been edited by Shadow: Apr 14 2004, 09:53 PM |
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Apr 14 2004, 09:03 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Does this meen we can't use the ammo from SR3 and CC? While I know a lot about guns and shooting I don't know a whole lot about ammo, can I use SR3's simplified versions. I am fine with 5.56 working only in a 5.56 gun, it's all the varient types that throw me. |
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