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[Larsine]

Slightly more impressive if you replace "show...c" by "showtopic" in the URL, so as to link to actual threads.

Stupid cut'n'paste. Corrected...

[CanRay]

Most native speakers haven't studied their own language, I can assure you of that.

I remember one High School English class where someone did a "Book Report" on an issue of Rolling Stone magazine, and got a higher grade than I did when I did an actual BOOK.

Yes, I'm still bitter. I worked in the damned library!

[Fatum]

Minding that a proofreader is supposed to check for fluff inconsistencies and rules errors as well, I fail to see how being non-native English speaker is preventing him from being useful even if his language is sloppy.

[Adam]

Those costs you mention "Freelancers, artists, writers, editors" ect... those get paid for the BOOK. The physical Item in your hands.

As you said earlier in your post, it's 2012: the contributors to a book get paid for the _content_, not for any one particular form of it. The idea that print is core and everything else is just gravy is wrong and should be stopped.

Making money from electronic distribution of content is essential for any RPG publisher these days. It's not magical free bonus money. Expected profit from electronic sales is included in all budget/estimated earnings discussions/numberwork, and it's a delicate balancing act to keep releases profitable when sales are divided into more and more channels. And this also impacts cash flow because different channels -- direct electronic sale, indirect electronic sale, sales to game/comic stores, sales to mass-market stores (including Amazon) -- all pay slightly different percentages at different times. When an end-user buys a book on Amazon, chances are the publisher won't be paid for that sale for 3-6 months.

I haven't seen Hazard Pay, but making good PDFs -- hyperlinks, good bookmarks/TOCs, layers for easier printing, etc -- does absolutely take additional work above and beyond the PDF that is sent to the printer. The amount of work varies depending on book size, complexity, and designer skill, of course, but it _does_ cost money/time.

I'm not saying that customers should like rising prices. But the reasons behind rising prices and differing electronic/print/print-on-demand prices are complicated, and especially so in a niche industry where different publishers also have very different rates, methods, and schedules of pay for freelancers.

[CanRay]

Now I remember why I failed economics and bookkeeping.

[Grinder]

Now I remember why I love Adam.

Fixed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Stahlseele]

Now I remember why I failed economics and bookkeeping.

Because you are not lawyer/bureaucrat kinda evil . .

[Adam]

Because you are not lawyer/bureaucrat kinda evil . .

Jeepers, you aren't evil for knowing or wanting to know some basic book keeping/cash flow/budget stuff.

[Wakshaani]

Jeepers, you aren't evil for knowing or wanting to know some basic book keeping/cash flow/budget stuff.

Geeze, I'm probably the most Hippie-tastic guy around, but even *I* know how important money is. Heck, I have an econ minor. (And PoliSci, and Sociology, and Psychology, and ... well, there's ten of the dang things. They add up.)

The current political campaign is showcasing areas that I didn't know, however... buy rates for newspaper ad space, billboard rates, printing costs based on paper quality, color balance, as well as volume (More for less price, naturally) ... I pity the person who can't balance a checkbook that ever thinks of attempting any kind of finance. Geeze, if I miss a filing deadline, I have a $10K fine sitting overmy head. Makes you WAY more watchful of the ol' mailbox, lemmetell ya.

Hey CanRay, if you ever need help, drop me a line. I doubt you'll need anything on the macro-econ scale, but if you ever want basic intro to Keynes and Hayek, I can do that much.

(Or I can talk pro wrestling, agriculture, and tractor pulls. I *am* Southern, afterall.) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[CanRay]

Because you are not lawyer/bureaucrat kinda evil . .

Not even sure I'm evil...

Jeepers, you aren't evil for knowing or wanting to know some basic book keeping/cash flow/budget stuff.

Oh, I can budget. I do it. Constantly. It's a mathematical practice I have for my mind to... Well, never mind.

Hey CanRay, if you ever need help, drop me a line. I doubt you'll need anything on the macro-econ scale, but if you ever want basic intro to Keynes and Hayek, I can do that much.

(Or I can talk pro wrestling, agriculture, and tractor pulls. I *am* Southern, afterall.) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I may take you up on that if things come about the way they're supposed to, Wak. As for the Southern Stuff, you'd be better off with other True Northers. I haven't been to a tractor pull in years. And don't know jack about agriculture. Mining, OTOH, I do know.

Wait, I do know something about agriculture. People who grow up learning about that instead of mining get really scare at the guy that can discuss things like the various strengths of dynamite and the advantage of melting plastic explosives into pre-drilled holes for controlled detonations.

When there's a couple of megatons of rock above you, you better be damned sure what you're doing before you even think about getting your hands on the detonator caps.

[Adam]

Not even sure I'm evil...Oh, I can budget. I do it. Constantly. It's a mathematical practice I have for my mind to... Well, never mind.

I was not replying to you or quoting you.

[almost normal]

Fixed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

This. <3 The EP crew.

[Nikoli]

So, Adam, that would explain some of the initial release issues with the SR4 PDF...
Just kidding, love you guys.

[Adam]

So, Adam, that would explain some of the initial release issues with the SR4 PDF...
Just kidding, love you guys.

Oh yeah, the time crunch on that one + being one of the largest/most complex books (at the time) that I had put together + the weird way that DriveThru's watermarking interacted with the final PDF. Ugh. Then right onto finishing System Failure in hopes of getting advance copies of it to Gen Con as well ... that was a hell of a summer, and I learned a lot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Nikoli]

Based on subsequent PDF's, I'd say so.

[almost normal]

System Failure, was that the FARK one?

[lokii]

I happened to notice that on the Almanac world map the southern Sahara seems to be covered by dense vegetation. I wonder if this is somehow mentioned in Hazard Pay?

[Grinder]

It's most likely a fuck-up in the Almanac map.

[lokii]

It's most likely a fuck-up in the Almanac map.

Unless they used some really strange material someone must have deliberately touched up the map. There should be some reason for this ... right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)

[Grinder]

There should be... in a perfect world. But keep in mind that the Almanac is a product of the "Co-mingling of money"-period CGL has been through.... The quality of the Almanac is shitty.

[Pepsi Jedi]

There should be... in a perfect world. But keep in mind that the Almanac is a product of the "Co-mingling of money"-period CGL has been through.... The quality of the Almanac is shitty.

Lol "Co-mingling of money" How wonderfully PC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/talker.gif)

[ravensmuse]

Eh, let's be honest. At this point, we know what it means, they know what it means, and it's pretty much a dead topic now.

[Pepsi Jedi]

Eh, let's be honest. At this point, we know what it means, they know what it means, and it's pretty much a dead topic now.

Oh I agree. I just hadn't thought about it in some time. It was amusing to see it referenced in that way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Stahlseele]

That was the official way of naming it.
Now say it and do the quotation marks with your hands.

[NiL_FisK_Urd]

I just noticed that the Ares Predator CW and the Ares Arctic Rifle both mention the "Electronic Firing system" modification in their descriptions, but lack the 1 point of RC that normally comes with it.