HELP NEEDED TO SLAY A HIGHLY CYBERED ORK Options

[AOTD3025]

Have a storm spirit zap him? Remember that several pieces of cyberware are extremely vulnerable to electrical damage if the rules in Man and Machine mean anything.

Also remember that if somebody has already taken ten boxes of stun damage, any additional stun damage becomes physical damage, so that stunbolt can still kill.

[mfb]

this doesn't really sound like the basis of the problem is intraparty conflict. it sounds like one guy's an idiot who happens to have a character that, on the surface, appears to be difficult to kill. one reason i prefer less party-oriented games is that, as an individual runner hired along with several other individual runners, we can rid ourselves of idiots quickly and efficiently. then, we can steal their Westwinds, and brag about it constantly. not that this has ever happened.

[tjn]

[Aidley]

Force 4 shape earth. makes toothpaste out of anyone. >)

[mfb]

well, one guy being an idiot doesn't necessarily preclude two idiots.

[Malokei]

Alright It's me again! You know...the one with problem with his ROLLPLAYING party. I am not the idiot. They are because they lack the one thing they do not want to bring with them COMMON SENSE from the real world. I have out smarted them time and time again in getting our goal achieved as far as run are concerned. Sometimes even when they are planning to go in gunz a blazing so that they can kill stuff and get their faces on the scream sheets. I understand that there should be some interparty conflict but no when it divides the party. Half the party was trying to save me, the other half was trying to kill me and it really doesn't help whevr the side that is trying to kill me is MUNCHKINS. The GM is doing a mediocre job as far as the story is concerned but he isn't doing a good job as far as stopping this problem. Anyways I also GM and I know I would HAVE stopped it before it happened but since I am not I have to bite the bullet and start gearing up to kill this other character off since he is still trying to kill me.

[Austere Emancipa...]

[Blades]

I'll use the combination of
Stun bolt
Levitate
Agony
gel rounds

1) stunbolt him untill he passes out
2) change his ammo into gelrounds(make sure only the GM knows this)
3) keep him levitated over the edge of some high building
4) when he wakes use agony on him, and tell him he is going to die, and you are going to "drive" his girlfriend *
5) wait until he gets mad enough at you to shoot you
6) when you pass out of stun damage, he drops!
7) that way you can rightfully claim to the other party members that he committed suicide.... and you didn't lower yourself to kill him :-)

* If you dont have agony, just use the levitate spell on his boxershorts only, and not the person.

[tjn]

[Lilt]

[Toungue in cheek]
You claim to be a roleplayer, but you claim you only took a light wound from a munchkin... How is this possible? :P
[/Toungue in cheek]

[BitBasher]

[Malokei]

Alright I see your point tjn. I feel differently as the people who play the PC's have a strong lack of creativity.Which brings about their muchin side as they always want what is best without earning it. As for the light wound I was able to stave off the damage by rolling lucky but barely honestly I wound up taking a moderate +1 box in damage I never did take any Stun damage though because I was able to resist drain though. It was a hard 27 combat rounds and I had hardly any chance of survival except through my elemental in which case I did drop the armor spell but on his turn he missed horribly actually he botched with all 1's except one 4 out of six dice. The GM however did not punish him accordingly as when any one else has botched in that campaign which happens quite often.

They side against me came to the session that day with idea of killing me but it backfired. The other sammy and mage came to my rescue well er kinda. They at least helped me by stopping 2 of the other PC's from hurting me. They told about their (MUNCHKINS) plan just about an hour after todays session. I am a glad the ones on my side are honest but it came to late. I survived today as they have commandeered my property to do their runs.

As for who has the higher skill. I have a 5 in that skill. The ork has a 6 but I have the EDGE:aptitude to pilot my Lav and it is where my character lives Edge:Homeground. So now can you folks see where I am coming from. I have something nice that is rightfully mine and they want to take it from me.

Need more info then please post. I will be listening. :nuyen:

[nezumi]

Someone else already said this, but I have to agree... This sounds like it's an OOC problem you're bringing into the game. If they're making plots outside of the game to kill your character, and other people are telling you this (also OOC), then the problem needs to be fixed OOC.

First, look up the rules of arguing. I'm not saying you're bad at it, but I think EVERYONE needs to hear those rules. They're just a good idea. Lemme see if I can dig 'em up...

Second, talk with them as friends (and intelligent people) you play a game with. Don't accuse them! Just say, when you do such and such, it makes me enjoy the game less. People can appreciate if you feel they're right in doing something, but it has a consequence they didn't foresee. They don't appreciate it when you say they're just munchkins or idiots.

Make sure you talk with each of them privately. That'll let you both be more open, and will make sure no one feels like they're being ganged up on. Once you've figured out what exactly they're doing that you don't like, try to figure out a solution together. At that point, feel free to include your GM and other players, to help keep you all to it when you go back to the gaming table.

There's really nothing wrong with playing a munchkin character, nor with playing a character with no stats at all! But that sometimes will result in conflicts, as you can tell. In my experience, the best solution is learn when combat is helpful and when it's not, and make sure there are plenty of chances for the gunbunnies to strut their stuff. This might mean some compromise on your side as well, making plans in which they have to blast something in particular or what not (talk with your GM for help too), but that might help make the game more fun for everyone.


Re: Rules for arguing... They have biblical references, you can ignore those, however I have seen all of these rules elsewhere, they are pretty solid. Read them, know them, USE THEM. They help a TON, trust me. You can ignore the one about withdrawing love, though. The most important ones, unfortunately, take up the least amount of space: Use 'I' statements, rather than accusations; Avoid quibbling or exaggerations; don't embarass or attack them.

http://www.pastornet.net.au/jmm/articles/5201.htm

[Connor]

I doubt it's that sort of game, but you could also start talking about the incident with your contacts and spreading bad news about them around town. No one is going to want to work for or hire a crew that untrustworthy and stupid.

You could also maybe call in a favor or two from some of your contacts to help you out. Again, like most people said, if you can catch the ork alone your stunball should be able to take him out. Once he's unconcious he can't resist you putting a clip full of lead into his brain.


And if this is a problem with the other players in the group, especially if a few of them got together out of game and planned on killing off your character either you've done something previously to them or they're definately not the kind of people you should be playing with. I'd probably just walk away from the game and never look back.

[gknoy]

[Voran]

At this point, it needs to be handled out of game. Otherwise, regardless of whether you whack him, or he whacks you, the tension between the players is going to remain. Nice atmosphere that, where some players resent each other, and a couple resent the GM cause they figure the GM should have stepped in, and the GM resenting players because he thinks they're idiots.

[Malokei]

Alright it's me again. I recently found out that excuse and it is kinda a poor one. They all want to run characters similar if not exact to those presented in cowboy bebop. Which would have been fine if they told me so they figured if they killed me then they could get to create a character that reflects one from the cowboy bebop universe. Well they certainly didn't tell me that at char-gen. So instead of voicing their dislike of my character concept they came up with hair brained scene thanks to one of the more stupid players that hates my guts in game and in real life. Honestly I didn't know because he never talks except when he is bragging about something insignifigant that happened in game. Well it came time for the their plan to fall in place so he has the overly cybered ork do it rather than confronting me. So yes half the group knew, the other half didn't know me and gm included.

What an elaborate sceme that failed horribly today they managed to get themselves into trouble with the yaks. I along with rest of the party didn't bother to help them as it would have gotten us captured. Lame. but hey it's fair. Right...

[Voran]

Who gets to be the AI-dog? :)

[Connor]

Malokai, I say you take the character of the player who doesn't like you in real life and follow gknoy's suggestion #5 or #6. #6, preferably. You could sell him to the Yaks even! Hell, if you know where his hideout is you could just go visit the local oyabun and give him the info first hand.

[gknoy]