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 Apr 15 2004, 05:27 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 16-August 03 Member No.: 5,501  |
if a charachter wants to modify a leather coat to be like a lined coat, would this lined leather coat get an armor rating of 4/3 for synthetic leather or 4/4 for real leather?
would you say that it makes any difference? |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:40 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 26-February 02 From: BC Member No.: 1,677 |
I'd say the distinction is irrelevant. Just buy the regular lined coat or secure long coat and have it look like leather. (actually cheaper than real leather, I notice)
Seems like a lot of work for one measly point of impact armor. |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:42 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
Style over substance, my friend, style over substance. |
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Apr 15 2004, 06:07 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Treat it like a normal lined coat. The fact that it's leather is for roleplaying, not numbers.
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Apr 15 2004, 06:17 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Ask the GM. Some allow bonus for listed armor made out of leather.
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Apr 15 2004, 01:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 596 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,112 |
But would a leather jacket, even one made out real leather, put up such a massive resistance to flechette bullets?
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Apr 15 2004, 02:00 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
I was just thinking about this the other day. I decided not to bother the GM for an Impact point and bought an armored jacket that I describe IC as "snyth-leather"
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Apr 15 2004, 02:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 6,083 |
The leather on all the critters I have ever shot never seemed to help them any. :D
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Apr 15 2004, 02:24 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Who knows? They don't even make sense as it is. |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:46 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Probably because that is "hide" not "leather." The leathering treatments do make a hide more durable but are very difficult to perform on a living creature. |
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Apr 15 2004, 09:29 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Which is why, of course, we dikote our nastiest creatures. |
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Apr 15 2004, 10:35 PM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
I'm sure a Jacket (0/0) made out of Troll skin would prevent Flechette ammo from staging up. :)
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Apr 15 2004, 10:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Would it? Isn't the natural dermal plating beneath the layers of skin that would be used to make a coat? :)
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Apr 16 2004, 05:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 90 |
I don't see why a real leather armor jacket/coat wouldn't have a higher impact rating than a regualr one. Look at the regular jackets made of leather and synth-leather for instance. Synth-leather has an impact rating of 1 while real leather has a rating of 2.
I'd just reccomend adding the price of the two together. Thus if you want an Lined coat made of real leather it would cost you 1450¥ (lined coat 700¥ + 750¥ real leather jacket) and have a rating of 4/4. |
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Apr 16 2004, 05:29 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
If you want the two, armor from Real Leather and Lined Coat, using the armor stacking rules as normal. Wearing just that, it'd give you a total armor rating of 4/3 (4 Ballistic, 2 + 2/2 = 3 Impact). Won't get you into any trouble unless you have a QUI of 3 or less, is highly Concealable. Mostly useless if you wear additional armor.
Considering how massive a heavy leather coat with soft body armor inside it is, I think considering it stacked armor makes sense. And it allows a character to get the Real Leather and Lined Coat armors, which might otherwise be really difficult. Actually making it as good a form of protection as an Armored Vest with Plates (ie 4/3, but not considered stacked armor) sounds a bit silly to me. |
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