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Apr 15 2004, 05:47 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I had heretofore assumed that Launch Weapons governed missiles and rockets (and grenade launchers, etc.) of all varieties, and that Gunnery applied to anything else that was vehicle-mounted. However, a reread of the rules seems to state that Gunnery applies to anything vehicle-mounted at all, leaving Launch Weapons to apply only to carried munitions. Is this correct?
Or, to put it another way: I'm rigging a van with a missile launcher. I launch a missile. Do I roll Gunnery or Launch Weapons? ~J |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:52 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Gunnery.
Although in the case of launched missiles, a house-rule wouldn't be absurd. Remember though that launch weapons also applies to underbarrel grenade launchers and such. |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:52 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
My reading of the rules is that Gunnery applies to any ranged weapon fired from a vehicle.
I would do this anyway, if only to give a break to riggers who have to master enough skills already in addition to having to spend bags of cash on equipment. |
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Apr 15 2004, 05:58 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I'd allow the use of either. If you can fire guided missile from the shoulder, you can fire them quite well from a vehicle mount. On the other hand, firing any weapon from a vehicle is pretty much like firing any other weapon.
Or perhaps allow Defaulting to Launch Weapons at +1. |
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Apr 15 2004, 06:06 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 675 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 2,034 |
Maybe gunnery should be used for all remote control vehicle mounted weapons, and the regular skill for all human operated vehicle mounted weapons. So a ring, or pintle mounted machinegun would use heavy weapons and a remote popup turret with anything in it would use gunnery? Or maybe more like if you are actually touching the weapon as with a ring or pintle mount you use the weapon skill, but if you are indirectly controlling it like a remote, or from inside a turret use gunnery?
I think that would take care of letting the rigger keep the skills he needs down to a merely unreasonable number rather than a completely absurd one, but would still allow other charachters to fire from a vehicle with mounted weapons set up for them. |
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Apr 15 2004, 06:07 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Heck, it wouldn't even be all that crazy to fold Launch Weapons into Gunnery completely and only have one skill.
I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it woulnd't be all that crazy. |
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Apr 15 2004, 06:17 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Rev: what you're talking about is already the case. If a weapon is actually mounted on a vehicle, it uses Gunnery. Pintle and ring mounts, however, are essentially fancy bipods and tripods, so weapons on them use the applicable weapon skill.
~J |
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Apr 15 2004, 09:03 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
You use Gunnery.
One explanation: To fire a missile through a vehicle's interface control system requires an entirely different set of skills than, say, a Stinger shoulder-mounted missile. -Siege |
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Apr 15 2004, 09:45 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Assuming your campaigns don't feature much of either, that's more than fair. |
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